A Common Misconception among Evolutionists Re: Creation Science

Ray Lanthier rlanthier at earthlink.net
Fri Oct 9 21:03:38 EST 1998



Don Kresch wrote:

> On Thu, 08 Oct 1998 18:51:08 -0700, in alt.atheism, Ray Lanthier
> <rlanthier at earthlink.net> etched in the space-time continuum
>
> >
> >
> >Don Kresch wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 07 Oct 1998 18:27:55 -0700, in alt.atheism, Ray Lanthier
> >> <rlanthier at earthlink.net> etched in the space-time continuum
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >taguebw at REMOVEwfu.edu wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> In article <361ADFF1.45C73617 at earthlink.net>, Ray Lanthier
> >> >> <rlanthier at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > What about faith in science?
> >> >>
> >> >> That's the key, isn't it?
> >> >>
> >> >> In the scientific method, one asks a question in such a way that anyone
> >> >> else can ask the same question using the same technology and arrive at the
> >> >> same answer. Everyone can observe the data.
> >> >
> >> >Hence, faith in the senses.
> >>
> >>         No need for.
> >>
> >
> >Why do you believe your senses? How do you know you are not suffering from illusions when you see
> >colors, shapes etc. Sometimes people do hallucinate. Should they believe this sensory input?
>
>         I wish I could answer, but since I can't trust my senses, I don't see what
> you posted, so I can't answer. I mean, I am not sure that what I am reading is
> what you wrote, so basically I can say that you wrote "Bill Clinton is
> President of the United States" , and I must be correct since I cannot trust my
> senses.

on the contrary, we trust (have faint in) our senses.

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>
> >
> >> > Faith in reason.
> >>
> >>         No need for.
> >
> >What "proof" do you have that reason is valid? Do you use reaons to do so? See Godel's
> >incompleteness theorem.
>
>         See: fallacy of the stolen concept.
>

Where?

> >
> >>
> >>
> >> >. Faith in the order of the universe
> >>
> >>         No need for.
> >>
> >
> >why doesn't the universe revert to complete chaos?
>
>         Now, or later?

anytime.

>
>
> >You "know" that it will not. Not by reason or evidence. It is a prediction.
>
>         The universe has order because of the law of identity.
>

a LAW?

> Don
> alt.atheism atheist #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-
> Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
>
> Go away--the message is over






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