A Common Misconception among Evolutionists Re: Creation Science

Ray Lanthier rlanthier at earthlink.net
Sat Oct 10 22:23:36 EST 1998



Don Kresch wrote:

> On Fri, 09 Oct 1998 19:06:48 -0700, in alt.atheism, Ray Lanthier
> <rlanthier at earthlink.net> etched in the space-time continuum
>
> >
> >
> >Don Kresch wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 08 Oct 1998 18:44:45 -0700, in alt.atheism, Ray Lanthier
> >> <rlanthier at earthlink.net> etched in the space-time continuum
> >>
> >>         Oh Ray--what ng are you posting from? There's a shitload of bgs in the
> >> header, and it would be nice to get rid of those who really don't need this. I
> >> and many others are in alt.atheism.
> >>
> >
> >posting FROM? I am postint TO only one ng at a time.
>
> alt.agnosticism,
> alt.atheism
> ,alt.earth.system.science
> ,alt.info-science
> ,alt.philosophy
> ,alt.philosophy.debate,
> be.science,
> bionet.biology
> ,bionet.general
> ,cn.bbs.sci.philosophy
> ,fido7.science,
> fj.soc.pseudo-science
> ,k12.ed.science,
> man.freenet
> ,man.gene
>
>         Those are the newsgroups this is going to. Learn to use Communicator's
> newsreader. (How did I know it? I have the world's best newsreader: Forte
> Agent. I can see all the header stuff if I want.)
>
> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Jessica M. Wolfman wrote:
> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Hence, faith in the senses. Faith in reason. Faith in the order of the universe.Faith is evidence of
> >> >> >a higher order than physical perception.
> >> >>
> >> >> Uh, not, not faith. Unless you have reason to believe that your senses
> >> >> are failing you, the correct word is "confedence", and that's not
> >> >> faith.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Faith is not much different from confidence.
> >>
> >>         It's far different, actually. Confidence requires some evidence. Faith
> >> decries evidence.
> >>
> >
> >False.
>
>         Faith: belief without evidence or in spite of overwhelming evidence to the
> contrary.
>
>         You were saying?

Not in my dictionary or in traditional philosophy.

> >
> >> > It is proceeds from a source that is extra-sensory and arational.
> >>
> >>         Then we can never have faith, since it is extra-sensory, and we should not
> >> give it credence, since it is irrational.
> >>
> >>         You've just destroyed your own argument.
> >>
> >
> >arational not irrational.
>
>         My pardon. Still, if it is without rationality, it is IRrational.
>

Beyond reason.not against reason.

> Don
> alt.atheism atheist #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-
> Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
>
> Go away--the message is over






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