Medicine's Ten Greatest Discoveries

Marcio V. Pinheiro mvp1 at
Sun Sep 6 06:42:28 EST 1998

On Sun, 06 Sep 1998 10:42:06 GMT, jshauser at wrote:

>In article <6ssnap$17k at>,
>  sbharris at B. Harris) wrote:
>> In <8dkI1.1704$c3.3533280 at> "David Lloyd-Jones"
>> <dlj at> writes:
>> >Quite apart from which more and more US jurisdictions are allowing
>> >chiropractors and +ACI-psychologists+ACI- to practice medicine,
>> including hospital
>> >privileges, the ability to write legal prescriptions, and the right to
>> pile
>> >on and rape the insurance companies.
>> >
>> >This may help account for the fact that the United States is dead last
>> in
>> >life expectancy among all the wealthy nations -- Canada, Western
>> Europe and
>> >Scandinavia, Japan, Taiwan, Singapore.
>> >
>> >
>> -dlj.
>>    Not life expectancy at age 40.  Nor life expectancy in some parts of
>> the United states, such as Utah and Minnesota.  These facts are enough
>> to indicate the problem has nothing to do with the medical
>> establishment, unless you think doctors and medicine are somehow
>> different in Utah and Minnesota (and as a Utah doctor, I'd be
>> interested in your very specific reasons for this, if you want to go
>> that route.)
>>    Low US life expectany is due to just one thing: high neonatal and
>> infant mortality.  Part of that is due to the fact that the US counts
>> many severely premature births as live births, whereas they are counted
>> as miscarriages in countries where they quickly die.  We're handicapped
>> already from that.  The second problem is that infant mortality, and
>> mortality among male adolescents and young men in US inner cities,
>> especially among minority groups, is far higher than the rest of the
>> country (when even a few people die young, it does terrible things to
>> average stats on life expectancy).  However, the US medical system is
>> not to blame for crack babies or for young drug dealers shooting each
>> other in the head.  These are not problems medicine can deal with.  Not
>> anywhere on the planet.  And no matter how advanced.  Social problems
>> these are, to be sure.  American social problems, to be sure.  Blame
>> them on the country if you must, but don't blame them on the doctors.
>>                                        Steve Harris, M.D.
>> I dont think the issue of *blaming* any stat is on the physicians of this
>country nor do I think in this matter. From my perspective and with a public
>health background it is one of human behavior and associated responsiblities
>of our behaviors. In this country we have a tremendous amount of freedom,
>legal and illegal to make decisions which affect our health status. We are
>also a country which is capitalistic and with this have made decisions
>regarding our illness/health insurance policies. We are also a very
>heterogeneous population with associated issues such as genetics. Our poor
>ratings in many health stats is a confluence of factors. jsh
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Judith always forgets this one factor: the US health care system.
I think I know why.
Her business depends on it.

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