"another" and "better" career alternative?.....Nope!

Rich Lemert llsmith at mindspring.com
Wed Jan 17 21:50:05 EST 2001


If they can! How many of the Teamster's leaders or UAW leaders have voluntarily
taken a major cut in their salaries when the rank-and-file fall on hard times?

DPH wrote:

> Well, the union leaders better speak what most of the members want, or the
> members will vote themselves some different leaders...
>
> DPH
>
> John Jacobson wrote:
>
> > Unions don't speak for their members anyway. They speak for the union
> > leaders.
> >
> > "DPH" <kgclg15 at kg.hsanet.net> wrote in message
> > news:3A642E40.F8057299 at kg.hsanet.net...
> > > John Jacobson wrote:
> > >
> > > > "DPH" <kgclg15 at kg.hsanet.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:3A63C98F.B7679EDB at kg.hsanet.net...
> > > > > Lawson English wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > That is just another reason for a union.  An IT Professional's union
> > could
> > > > make
> > > > > their position known, and exhort their membership to write and call
> > their
> > > > > congressmen, and suggest to their membership which congressmen would
> > > > better
> > > > > butter their bread (say that 3 times fast... ), etc.
> > > >
> > > >    They can do that now, without a union.
> > > >
> > >
> > > No, they can't.  It takes an organization for a group to be able to speak
> > with
> > > one voice.  People genearlly don't focus too well, with the same opinions,
> > > without some kind of group.
> > >
> > >
> > > > > Unions don't have to all be
> > > > > about strikes.  If U want to see an effective lobbying association,
> > join
> > > > the NRA
> > > > > and experience the barrage of information concerning gun rights that
> > it
> > > > sends its
> > > > > members.  I'm an NRA life member,  and could probably paper the walls
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > > correspondence I get from them in a year.  A union of, say, 4 million
> > IT
> > > > workers
> > > > > would be a formidable political force.
> > > >
> > > >    I don't think you can compare the NRA with a labor union. It doesn't
> > > > exist under the purview of the NLRB, or according to the idea that
> > > > management and workers are necessarily at opposite ends of the battle.
> > >
> > > It exists with the idea that the 2nd amendment has many enemies that must
> > be
> > > defeated politically.  It didn't start out like that, but has gone there
> > out of
> > > necessity.  Without the NRA, our guns would likely be in some government
> > > repository waiting to be dumped into the sea.  Its the same sort of
> > adversarial
> > > relationship.  I'm not sure how the NLRB is relavent to this, tho.
> > >
> > > DPH
> > >








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