From jpncsimmons from earthlink.net Wed Feb 3 01:14:10 2010 From: jpncsimmons from earthlink.net (James Simmons) Date: Wed Feb 3 08:35:45 2010 Subject: [Bioforum] help me please... Message-ID: <2363898.1265177650507.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Sir, My name is JP Simmons. I am retired technician with a working knowledge of science but without any real authority to make certain statements. I am one of many who engage "creationists" in the tired old debate regarding creation vs evolution. It occurs to me that the opponents of evolution simply are not defining the term correctly. I am repeatedly told either directly or through implication that evolution is defined as "life coming into being (originating) by chance". I say that evolution does not address the origin of life since that is as yet an open topic. I maintain that evolution is merely a word which describes how, over time, life forms change. I'd like to ask for an authoritative definition of the term so that I may have some strength in response beyond my own ability to convince. Will someone in your group be good enough to give me a short paragraph in which evolution is defined being sure to mention whether or not it is concerned with the actual origins of life? If you will be kind enough to include some authenticating statement or signature I will be eternally grateful. Thank You for your kind response, James Simmons Boulevard, Ca. From alioune.ngom from gmail.com Sat Feb 6 13:06:46 2010 From: alioune.ngom from gmail.com (Alioune Ngom) Date: Sat Feb 6 14:33:28 2010 Subject: [Bioforum] WCCI 2010 - "Computational Intelligence for Bioinformatics" Special Session Message-ID: <93b9b41b1002061006k4a386852ycfc2c966198a5246@mail.gmail.com> LAST CALL FOR PAPERS: Special Session on Computational Intelligence for Bioinformatics (CIB) as part of the WCCI 2010 (IJCNN + Fuzz-IEEE + IEEE CEC), Barcelona, Spain, 18-23 July, 2010. DEADLINE: FEBRUARY 07, 2010. The 2010 IEEE World Congress on Computational Intelligence will be held on July 18-23, 2010, in Barcelona, Spain. The special session "Computational Intelligence for Bioinformatics" (CIB) is intended to bring together top researchers, practitioners, and students, from around the world. CIB will serve as a platform to discuss applications of Computational Intelligence in the field of Bioinformatics, Computational Biology, and Bioengineering, for solving problems in medicine, pharmacy, health and life sciences, biology, and forensic sciences. This CIB special session is sponsored and co-organized by the IEEE BBTC, the IEEE DMTF and the INNS SIGs on Bioinformatics and Biopattern. It spans three WCCI conferences (FUZZ-IEEE, IJCNN and IEEE-CEC) and integrates five tracks: CIBCBB, CIBDA, CIPI, CIBSDF and FSBM, described below. The conference associated with each track is also indicated in this description. Further details on the CIB session can be found at, http://www.neuronelab.dmi.unisa.it/wcci2010. We cordially invite you to submit research articles in this CIB session. We also encourage you to distribute the attached "call-for-papers" to your colleagues. Please visit WCCI 2010 at http://www.wcci2010.org. ===================================================================== Track 1: CIBCBB - "Computational Intelligence in Bioinformatics, Computational Biology, and Bioengineering" Main Sponsor: IEEE BBTC Conference: CEC 2010 Organizers: A. Ngom, M.A. Lones, J.-H. Chiang, A. Floares, G. Bernot, and F. Masulli Track 2: CIBDA - "Computational Intelligence for BioPattern Data Analysis" Main Sponsor: IEEE DMTF Conference: IJCNN 2010 Organizers: E. Biganzoli, L. Peterson, and A. Vellido Track 3: CIPI - "Computational Intelligence for the Pharmaceutical Industry" Main Sponsor: IEEE DMTF Conference: IJCNN 2010 Organizers: P.J.G. Lisboa, J.D. Mart?n-Guerrero, and R. Tagliaferri Track 4: CIBSDF - "Computational Intelligence in Biomedical Sciences and DNA Forensics" Conference: CEC 2010 Organizers: S. Ling, A. Kumar, Y. Guo, S. Bulusu, and S. Parija Track 5: FSBM- "Fuzzy Systems in Bio-Medicine" Conference: FUZZ-IEEE 2010 Organizers: M. Popescu, and J. Keller ===================================================================== Important dates: ? Paper Submission: 07 February 2010 ? Decision Notification: 15 March 2010 ? Camera-Ready Submission: 2 May 2010 Paper Submission: Electronic web submission in PDF format at http://www.wcci2010.org/ . Submission to the CIB Special Session: The CIB session spans three WCCI conferences: CEC, IJCNN and FUZZ. Each of the three conferences has its own review system, and the outcome of such system will be that conference?s proceeding. There are three ISBNs for the proceedings of three conferences. Authors can select the conference through which they will like their paper(s) to be reviewed and published (if accepted). When an author submits a paper for a given track of our CIB session, s/he should (1) select the conference associated with the given CIB track, and then (2) tag the paper using the CIB name (available from the paper topic roll-down menu) as the first topic. The same paper can only appear in one conference proceeding and it will be available from IEEEXplore (from that proceeding). CIB Scheduling and Publications: Accepted papers from all CIB tracks will be integrated into a single block that will be presented in a coherent manner in one multi-disciplinary track at WCCI. Each paper will be published in the proceedings of the conference that was selected for submission. The same paper will not appear in three conference proceedings, even if our CIB session spans three conferences. We look forward to seeing you in Barcelona. With Best Regards, Alioune Ngom, Ph.D. On behalf of the WCCI_2010-CIB co-organizers. =============================== Alioune Ngom, Ph.D., Associate Professor School of Computer Science, University of Windsor Windsor, Ontario, Canada http://www.ieee-cis.org/technical/bbtc/ http://cs.uwindsor.ca/~angom/ http://cs.uwindsor.ca/iapr/ =============================== Sent from Windsor, Ontario, Canada Mike Ditka - "If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms." From engelbert_buxbaum from hotmail.com Sun Feb 7 13:29:41 2010 From: engelbert_buxbaum from hotmail.com (Dr Engelbert Buxbaum) Date: Sun Feb 7 13:57:17 2010 Subject: [Bioforum] Re: help me please... References: <4fkmm51kethlaj4i502iie5r9b86bga8ri@4ax.com> Message-ID: Am 04.02.2010, 19:07 Uhr, schrieb Bob : > On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 01:14:10 -0500 (EST), James Simmons > wrote: > >> Sir, >> >> My name is JP Simmons. I am retired technician with a working >> knowledge of science but without any real authority to make certain >> statements. I am one of many who engage "creationists" in the tired >> old debate regarding creation vs evolution. It occurs to me that the >> opponents of evolution simply are not defining the term correctly. I >> am repeatedly told either directly or through implication that >> evolution is defined as "life coming into being (originating) by >> chance". I say that evolution does not address the origin of life >> since that is as yet an open topic. I maintain that evolution is >> merely a word which describes how, over time, life forms change. >> >> I'd like to ask for an authoritative definition of the term so that I >> may have some strength in response beyond my own ability to convince. >> Will someone in your group be good enough to give me a short paragraph >> in which evolution is defined being sure to mention whether or not it >> is concerned with the actual origins of life? >> > > > You are on the right track, but looking to definitions is not a good > solution. > > People define words various ways. Fine. What is important is that > whatever process led to life was different from what has occured > since. The former is pre-biotic. > > What Darwin addressed, and what is most commonly meant by "evolution", > is biology. How we got to the first life is a good issue, but > different. Just keep them as separate topics. Yes, however, the term evolution can be legitimately used in a much broader sense. Why is life made up of particular compounds and not some others? Because those compounds were easily formed and relatively stable under the conditions of prebiotic earth. Hence they enriched enough to organise into pre-life structures, which competed for these resources. Eventually life cam from them. In other words, there is not only biological, but also chemical evolution. Even the formation of matter after the big bang can be explained in evolutionary terms. This is the real beuty of science, when a concept derived from one field can be applied to other fields as well. The main issues with creationists are the following: - Creationists see creation and evolution as mutually exclusive concepts. Therefore, you believe either in God or in Darwin. That of course is a fallacity, one can see evolution as the method by which God created life. This is the official position of the Catholic Church. - Creationists tend to literally interprete Genesis, in that a day means 24 h or 1440 min or 86400 s. This of course is nonsense, a) because for God as an infinite being "a day is like thousand years and thousand years are like a day". Applying human time concepts to God makes no sense at all. b) because although the Hebrew word translated by "day" in the King James Bible can mean a "day" in the above sense, it can also mean any other defined time period, say, a millenium. This is like the guys who address each other with "thee", because that is supposed to be the way in which Jesus addressed his disciples. Of course he did not, he probably spoke Aramaeic for everyday communication. English as a language did not even exist then, it started to form only about 1000 years later when Wilhelm invaded Britain. From hemicar085 from yahoo.com Mon Feb 8 13:43:51 2010 From: hemicar085 from yahoo.com (Nikola Loncar) Date: Mon Feb 8 15:57:19 2010 Subject: [Bioforum] cloning of amylase from b.licheniformis Message-ID: <209194.53341.qm@web36601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi to everyone, I am new in this forum but it seems really helpfull to have gathered big science population at one site. I need a detailed advice - I have isolated an amylase from B.licheniformis strian. It has very good characteristics but the production is very low so I want to clone this enzyme into e.coli. Can someone please tell me step by step what I should do? I am a biochemist and my speciality is purifying proteins but now my boss want me to learn cloning. thank in advance! Nikola Loncar