bionet.journals.note passes - 126 YES, 7 NO

David Kristofferson kristoff at
Sun Nov 29 15:18:48 EST 1992

The newsgroup proposal for bionet.journals.note was approved by a vote
of 126 YES to 7 NO.  We will initiate efforts to establish this
newsgroup promptly here and at Daresbury.  Please watch for an
announcement in this forum when the group is open for subscriptions
and use.  A copy of the approved proposal follows (please don't send
in any more votes after reading it 8-)!


				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

				kristoff at


Discussion leader:  Donald R. Forsdyke
                    Department of Biochemistry,
                    Queen's University
                    Kingston, Ontario
                    Canada, K7L3N6

                    Donald.R.Forsdyke at QueensU.CA

I would like to suggest a new Bionet group for the exchange of
information concerning journals. Having had a good idea, done the
experiments and written a paper, one is faced with the problem of
where to submit it. The wrong decision at this stage can cause a
variety of problems, not the least of which is delay. [Of course, not
too far down the line when electronic journals get going, this problem
will not be so pressing.]

Two examples have appeared on the "net" over the past few weeks. In
one case an author was upset that he had received no correspendence
from the editor of a journal for several months. Someone was able to
tell him that the editor had been in an automobile accident and that
may have delayed things. In another case an editorial office had
moved. Manuscripts sent in by courier were being forwarded by regular
mail, with concomitant delays.

Much of the "inside" information on journals is gathered informally,
over the years, so that "old hands" are less at a disadvantage then
"new". Hopefully, some of this experience could be passed along to new
authors. For example, the journal Nature states that "less than 50%"
of the papers received are actually sent out for review.  What does
that mean? 40%, 30%, 10%? If the answer is 10% then papers must be
written with the primary intent of getting over through the initial
editorial filter, rather than satisfying subsequent reviewers.

Apart from use by those who submit to journals, I envisage that the
new forum would act as a bulletin board for journal editors who might
want to post their latest "Instructions for Authors" or announce new
changes in Editorial Policy.


                         Don Forsdyke


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