Neither I did find anything on bio.net. the best therefore might be to send
an mail to the adrdress given by Herbert and ask on how to arrange things. I
am willing to become the moderator. I will only take about 5 minutes of my
daily time I guess...hope. Maybe we should just go for since the discussion
about spam and concomittant conclusion that we as group readers favour a
moderator has been in the past.
Bart
--Forwarded message by Bart van Rotterdam.
I would support the idea of someone moderating this group, the volume of
spam puts
me off posting. If someone would like to moderate, please do! The big
question is what is the
procedure for turning this grup into a moderated group? I couldn't find
anything on bio.net
which said how one might do this.
I found the following text at bio.net:
"The discussion leader can also propose the creation of moderated newsgroups
if he/she agrees to serve as moderator (this requires access to Usenet news
software at the moderator's site). Proposals should be sent to
biosci-help at net.bio.net. "
Herbert Sauro
Caltech
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bart van Rotterdam" <bjvanrotterdam at freeler.nl>
Newsgroups: bionet.metabolic-reg
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:57 AM
Subject: moderator
> Dear All,
>> The group seems to be pretty much dead but overfloeing with spam. Would it
> not be a nice idea to move the whole group to Yahoo eGroups. In that way
you
> have a much more controlled environment without any spam.
>> Regards Bart van Rotterdam
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"Athel Cornish-Bowden" <athel at ibsm.cnrs-mrs.fr> wrote in message
news:v0300780ab81ef1a1b4c8@[10.234.32.112]...
> Bart van Rotterdam wrote,
> >
> >Staying with the bionet newsgroup is fine with me and I am willing to
become
> >the moderator, that is the spam deleter, when someone can give me
> >instructions on how arrange that. I checked the BIONET website and it
> >appears to me that one has to opt for becoming the moderator whilst
setting
> >up the newsgroup account. I did not figure out how to become moderator of
an
> >existing group when it is setup in an unmoderated fashion only having a
> >discussion leader, in this case James Woods.
> >
> If you are willing to do the moderation that will be great, and I
certainly
> support the principle of moderation. (Though we shouldn't forget that when
> Paul Schlosser organized a vote the margin in favour was very small: we
> shouldn't stampede the others into moderation if there is still
appreciable
> opposition).
>> On the general issue of why this group is in such poor health there are a
> number of not necessarily related points I think it worth making:
>> 1. Nearly all the BioNet groups I look at are in much worse shape now than
> they were about three years ago. Even those that are still quite lively
> (e.g. the microbiology group) are less so than they were even a year ago.
I
> do NOT notice any similar trend in the other (non-biological) groups I
> visit, e.g. on yahoo or google groups. Maybe it's just that biologists are
> a bit disillusioned with news groups, finding that they are not living up
> to their promise of a few years ago. I hope that is not true, but it's
> certainly not just this group that has fallen on bad times.
>> 2. Something I found very striking was that during the period when Pentcho
> was favouring us with his views there were quite a lot of contributions on
> more interesting subjects as well, but when he went away the good stuff
> went away as well, more or less immediately. It was as if people need to
> have SOMETHING appearing regularly to whet their appetites, even if it's
> just raving about thermodynamics.
>> 3. Although I'm in favour of moderation, I don't think it's the lack of
> moderation that's the main problem, it's the lack of a discussion leader.
> What we need more than a moderator is an energetic, enthusiastic and
> preferably young person who can feed us with interesting things for us to
> discuss. After all, Douglas, David and I are nearer to the days of our
> compulsory retirement than to the days we started as newly appointed
> lecturers, full of enthusiasm at the chance to train eager young minds in
> the exciting field of enzyme kinetics and thermodynamics.
>> 4. Len told us
>> >I don't think this list is dead, just thoughtful ;-). I certainly have a
> >lot of questions I'd like to ask but don't want to appear too stupid in
> >the asking. I imagine others feel the same.
>> Please: ASK YOUR QUESTIONS ! We won't think they are stupid. We'll only
> think you're stupid if you don't pay any attention to the answers but just
> repeat the same old questions over and over and over again. Even Pentcho
> drew a great many serious answers before people decided it was a total
> waste of time and energy.
>> 5. If possible, I'd prefer to stay with BioNet, for the reason that David
> gave: to stay with related groups and with our history and archives.
>> athel
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> Athel Cornish-Bowden
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