Oops, meant to send it to the bionet group.
Thanks Bart for forwarding it.
Herbert
"Bart van Rotterdam" <bjvanrotterdam at freeler.nl> wrote in message
news:9tfqg4$18mk$1 at pukkie.phys.uu.nl...
> Neither I did find anything on bio.net. the best therefore might be to
send
> an mail to the adrdress given by Herbert and ask on how to arrange things.
I
> am willing to become the moderator. I will only take about 5 minutes of my
> daily time I guess...hope. Maybe we should just go for since the
discussion
> about spam and concomittant conclusion that we as group readers favour a
> moderator has been in the past.
>> Bart
>>> --Forwarded message by Bart van Rotterdam.
>> I would support the idea of someone moderating this group, the volume of
> spam puts
> me off posting. If someone would like to moderate, please do! The big
> question is what is the
> procedure for turning this grup into a moderated group? I couldn't find
> anything on bio.net
> which said how one might do this.
>> I found the following text at bio.net:
>> "The discussion leader can also propose the creation of moderated
newsgroups
> if he/she agrees to serve as moderator (this requires access to Usenet
news
> software at the moderator's site). Proposals should be sent to
>biosci-help at net.bio.net. "
>>> Herbert Sauro
> Caltech
>> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bart van Rotterdam" <bjvanrotterdam at freeler.nl>
> Newsgroups: bionet.metabolic-reg
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:57 AM
> Subject: moderator
>>> > Dear All,
> >
> > The group seems to be pretty much dead but overfloeing with spam. Would
it
> > not be a nice idea to move the whole group to Yahoo eGroups. In that way
> you
> > have a much more controlled environment without any spam.
> >
> > Regards Bart van Rotterdam
>>> --
> _________________________________________________
>> Bart van Rotterdam
> telefoon: +31 30 2532823
> mobiel: +31 6 18476960
>http://www.phys.uu.nl/~rdam/> _________________________________________________
>>> "Athel Cornish-Bowden" <athel at ibsm.cnrs-mrs.fr> wrote in message
> news:v0300780ab81ef1a1b4c8@[10.234.32.112]...
> > Bart van Rotterdam wrote,
> > >
> > >Staying with the bionet newsgroup is fine with me and I am willing to
> become
> > >the moderator, that is the spam deleter, when someone can give me
> > >instructions on how arrange that. I checked the BIONET website and it
> > >appears to me that one has to opt for becoming the moderator whilst
> setting
> > >up the newsgroup account. I did not figure out how to become moderator
of
> an
> > >existing group when it is setup in an unmoderated fashion only having a
> > >discussion leader, in this case James Woods.
> > >
> > If you are willing to do the moderation that will be great, and I
> certainly
> > support the principle of moderation. (Though we shouldn't forget that
when
> > Paul Schlosser organized a vote the margin in favour was very small: we
> > shouldn't stampede the others into moderation if there is still
> appreciable
> > opposition).
> >
> > On the general issue of why this group is in such poor health there are
a
> > number of not necessarily related points I think it worth making:
> >
> > 1. Nearly all the BioNet groups I look at are in much worse shape now
than
> > they were about three years ago. Even those that are still quite lively
> > (e.g. the microbiology group) are less so than they were even a year
ago.
> I
> > do NOT notice any similar trend in the other (non-biological) groups I
> > visit, e.g. on yahoo or google groups. Maybe it's just that biologists
are
> > a bit disillusioned with news groups, finding that they are not living
up
> > to their promise of a few years ago. I hope that is not true, but it's
> > certainly not just this group that has fallen on bad times.
> >
> > 2. Something I found very striking was that during the period when
Pentcho
> > was favouring us with his views there were quite a lot of contributions
on
> > more interesting subjects as well, but when he went away the good stuff
> > went away as well, more or less immediately. It was as if people need to
> > have SOMETHING appearing regularly to whet their appetites, even if it's
> > just raving about thermodynamics.
> >
> > 3. Although I'm in favour of moderation, I don't think it's the lack of
> > moderation that's the main problem, it's the lack of a discussion
leader.
> > What we need more than a moderator is an energetic, enthusiastic and
> > preferably young person who can feed us with interesting things for us
to
> > discuss. After all, Douglas, David and I are nearer to the days of our
> > compulsory retirement than to the days we started as newly appointed
> > lecturers, full of enthusiasm at the chance to train eager young minds
in
> > the exciting field of enzyme kinetics and thermodynamics.
> >
> > 4. Len told us
> >
> > >I don't think this list is dead, just thoughtful ;-). I certainly have
a
> > >lot of questions I'd like to ask but don't want to appear too stupid in
> > >the asking. I imagine others feel the same.
> >
> > Please: ASK YOUR QUESTIONS ! We won't think they are stupid. We'll only
> > think you're stupid if you don't pay any attention to the answers but
just
> > repeat the same old questions over and over and over again. Even Pentcho
> > drew a great many serious answers before people decided it was a total
> > waste of time and energy.
> >
> > 5. If possible, I'd prefer to stay with BioNet, for the reason that
David
> > gave: to stay with related groups and with our history and archives.
> >
> > athel
> >
> > --
> > Athel Cornish-Bowden
> > athel at ibsm.cnrs-mrs.fr> > http://bip.cnrs-mrs.fr/bip10/homepage.htm> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
>>
