au44 at CLASS.ORG
Tue Aug 30 21:24:01 EST 1994
On Tue, 30 Aug 1994, eric c. anderson wrote:
> i would like to apologize for getting off on a tangent with my reply to
> Adriana's post ("this is a scientific network").
> i would appreciate it if the personal flames would cease. i know that the
> forum was somewhat inappropriate, but as it was a reply, a cross-post would
> have been confusing. also, by the gist of the letters i am receiving in
> reply, many people in the community do not think that ethics has a place in
> a scientific discussion forum. while i doubt that many people would agree
> with that statement as it is written, some of your replies to me have said
> just that, but not in so many words.
> sorry for wasting the bandwidth, but i never really expected to incite a
> personal flame from leon.
I personally did not care much for the original post concerning the
current state of political affairs in China, but I cared even less for
the high and mighty response to it. Take a powder and relax, nothing in
the world is worth getting that upset over.
I also find it extremely disconcerting that, according to Eric's
post (and I don't know Eric or anybody else in this nasty little affair
personally), that the number of scientists, including worm docs, who are
not concerned with ethics is apparently high. I attended an NSF
sponsored Ethics Across the Curriculum workshop in Chicago this summer
where the principal issue was the incorporation of ethical considerations
into our profession. Having spent 4 years in a lab where the lack of
professional ethics and conduct had serious consequences within the lab
and now, throughout the institution, I would argue that it is extremely
appropriate for the scientific community, in all subgroups, to consider
issues relating to the consequences of their actions. Obviously, when
working with C. elegans the issues aren't life and death (not usually
anyway, except when somebody needs a job), and I don't advocate using
this mailing list to spend all of our time discussing conduct, but to not
allow any is a serious mistake, in my opinion.
I am teaching a cell bio course this fall in which we will discuss
ethical issues in the conduct of science and scientific research.
Thanks to all for giving me a new case to present to my students. I'll
change the names to protect the innocent.
Send me a nasty message if you like, I'll be happy to bite your head
off right back. I'm pretty good at stuff like that.
Department of Biology
Ashland, Ohio 44805
au44 at class.org
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