Callie is RIGHT but too simple
ALL OF THE LYMPHOCYTES IN THE BODY EMERGE TO THE PERIPHERY PRECOMMITTED TO A
SPECIFIC ANTIGEN. STIMULATING ONE SET DOES NOT USE UP ANOTHER UNCOMMITTED
SET.
THE IMMUNE SYSTEM IS REPONDING ALL OF THE TIME. OTHERWISE WE WOULD NOT HAVE
ANY ANTIBODIES IN OUR BLOOD. GERM FREE MICE HAVE VERY LOW LEVELS OF ANTIBODY.
THE IMMUNE SYSTEM IS COMPLICATED, AND THE EXACT MECHANISMS FOR A PROTECTIVE
RESPONSE ARE LARGELY UNKNOWN. SOEMTIMES tH1 RESPONSES ARE PROTECTIVE, AND
OTHER TIMES tH2 RESPONSES ARE PROTECTIVE AND OTHERS ANTIBODY IS PROTECTIVE.
NONE OF THIS SAYS THAT ANY RESPONSE CREATES STERILING IMMUNITY, ONLY
PROTECTION FROM DISEASE. PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT GENES AND SOMETIMES RESPOND
TO THE SAME IMMUNOGEN DIFFERENTLY, AS THEY DO TO THE DISEASE. HOW DO THE
ANTI-VACCINE PEOPLE KNOW THAT THE SAME PEOPLE WHO HAVE BAD REACTIONS TO THE
VACCINE WOULD NOT HAVE BAD RESPONSES TO THE WILD TYPE ORGANISM.
THE LENGTH OF A PROTECTIUVE IMMUNE RESPONSE TO BOTH A NATURAL INFECTION AND
VACCINE ARE UNKOWN. FURTHER IT IS USUALLY CHAEPER TO REVACCINATE SOMEONE
THAN TO TEST FOR ANTIBODY (WHICH MAY NOT BE THE RIGHT THING TO TEST FOR).
FINALLY THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF WELL CONTROLLED EXPERIEMENTS WHICH SHOW THE
PROOF OF CONCEPT IN THE OPEN LITERATURE. IMMUNIZATION CAN PREVENT
SUBSEQUENT DISEASE IN A HOST OF ANIMAL AND VIRAL SYSTEMS. THE IDEA IS RIGHT
AS JENNER AND PASTUER SHOWED. THE APPLICATIONIS LESS THAN PERFECT, BUT SO
IS THE IMMUNE REPONSE.
YES I AM YELLING
THERE HAS NOT BEEN ENOUGH IMMUNOLOGY IN ANY OF THESE POSTS TO FILL A THIMBLE.
TAKE THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
At 09:55 AM 1/22/96 -0700, Callie wrote:
>In article <4dv6eq$rqt at castle.nando.net>,
> Researcher <intercom at nando.net> wrote:
>>> There are few if any double-blind placebo controlled
>>studies--medical science's standard of proof--showing that currently
>>mandated vaccines are actually effective.
> Do you want to be in the double-blind rabies tests??? I can arrange
>it.
>>>The clinical evidence
>>for vaccination is their ability to stimulate antibody production in the
>>recipient, a fact which is not disputed. What is not clear, however, is
>>the extent to which antibody production is the basis for immunity.
>>Agamma globulin-anemic children are incapable of producing antibodies,
>>yet they recover from infectious diseases almost as quickly as other
>>children.
> As was mentioned before, the body has various lines of resistence,
>and antibodies are not needed for bacterial infections - the white
>blood cells can eat the bacteria.
>>>32 Natural immunization is a complex phenomenon involving many
>>organs and bodily systems; it cannot be duplicated by the mere artificial
>>stimulation of antibodies.
> True, but I would rather get artificially stimulated antibodies
>than most diseases.
>>> Research also indicates that vaccination commits immune cells to
>>the specific antigens involved in the vaccine, rendering them incapable
>>of reacting to other infections.
> This is a half-truth and very misleading.
> An infection also commits immune cells to the specific antigens involved
>in that infectious organism ... the body has certain cells that are
>dedicated to creating a fresh supply of virgin immune cells for the next
>infection or vaccine that might come along.
>>>>>>Callie
>>Callie at writepage.com | The Write Page for genre fiction:
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>>>
