"AIDS Treatment News" online * New Issue #302 (searchable/indexed)

ROBERT S. HOLZMAN holzmr01 at mcrcr6.med.nyu.edu
Wed Oct 14 07:02:33 EST 1998


In article <3623deb7.624180150 at netnews.worldnet.att.net>, johnburgin at worldnet.att.net writes:
> On 13 Oct 98 18:58:33 EDT, holzmr01 at mcrcr6.med.nyu.edu (ROBERT S.
> HOLZMAN) wrote:
> 
>>In article <7000vc$k0o$1 at news1.tc.umn.edu>, carlton at walleye.ccbr.umn.edu (Carlton Hogan) writes:
>>> In article <362286f7.536167326 at netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
>>>  <johnburgin at worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>>>On 12 Oct 1998 17:48:25 GMT, carlton at walleye.ccbr.umn.edu (Carlton
>>>>Hogan) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In article <362204f5.502879737 at netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
>>>>> <johnburgin at worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:25:39 -0700, marnix at u.washington.edu (Marnix L.
>>>>>>Bosch) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In article <3607e5c8.49487590 at netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
>>>>>>>johnburgin at worldnet.att.net wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:44:00 -0700, marnix at u.washington.edu (Marnix L.
>>>>>>>> Bosch) wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> >In article <3607ded5.47708518 at netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
>>>>>>>> >johnburgin at worldnet.att.net wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At least Bob Gallo's 'proclamation' was based on some
>>>>>>That's soooooo scientific!
>>>>>> evidence. Whcih was
>>>>>>>subsequently peer
>>>>>>That "AIDS" is caused by HIV?  Show me the money!  The exact
>>>>>>scientific paper that has been "peer reviewed" and says, without a
>>>>>>doubt, that HIV causes "AIDS".  
>>>>>
>>>>>Please show me the one, peer-reviewed paper that shows T. Pallidum 
>>>>>causes syphilis. 
>>>>You can see those little squiggly fellows all over the place under the
>>>>microscope, (how about the mysteriously absent HIV?)
>>
>>You can see plenty of HIV under the EM.
> YOU, may be able to see them.  What you see YOU may call HIV.  The
> Perth Group disagrees, rather convincingly I might add, that you are
> mistaken.
>   You expect to see them by light
>>microscopy?
>>
>>And what about late syphilis, you don't find treponemes in many of the late
>>stages?
> Define late.  After drug therapy?  After the damage to the body has
> been done(secondary and tertiary)?  jb
>>
> 

Conventionally late syphilis is post secondary. (latent and teritiary).







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