"AIDS Treatment News" online * New Issue #302 (searchable/indexed)

Carlton Hogan carlton at walleye.ccbr.umn.edu
Tue Sep 29 16:06:31 EST 1998


In article <36114369.663373706 at netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
 <johnburgin at worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>On 28 Sep 1998 16:39:26 GMT, carlton at walleye.ccbr.umn.edu (Carlton
>Hogan) wrote:
>
>>In article <360c01bb.318827338 at netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
>> <johnburgin at worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>>On 25 Sep 1998 20:47:08 GMT, carlton at walleye.ccbr.umn.edu (Carlton
>>>Hogan) wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>One more comment: If you are in fact a dentist, and believe that 
>>>>presence of antibodies means you have conquered an infection
>>>>(counter examples: syphilis, herpes, hepatitis and most damningly
>>>>leishmaniasis, leprosy and schistomasiasis, where higher antibody
>>>>titers are prognostic for WORSE clinical outcome) then I am very concerned
>>>>for your patients. Such staggering ignorance in a medical professional
>>>>is outrageous.
>>>now who's guilty of handwaving!jb
>>
>>Simple yes/no question: do you believe that the presence of pathogen-binding 
>>antibodies  automatically mean that the pathogen has been "conquered"
>>by the host?
>If you'll answer with a simple yes or no to the question that i have,
>I'll do the same for you.  Has or has not the AIDS establishment
>focused on the lack of immune protection from an HIV positive status
>been determined by the conclusion that these HIV antibodies are
>"non-neutralizing"  thus exempt from the rule of protection?  Jb

Handwaving. You posted that a positive antibody response means you 
have cleared an infection.Do you, or do you not believe that?

Carlton
>>
>>Carlton
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