"AIDS Treatment News" online * New Issue #302 (searchable/indexed)

johnburgin at worldnet.att.net johnburgin at worldnet.att.net
Tue Sep 29 20:04:10 EST 1998


On 29 Sep 1998 21:06:31 GMT, carlton at walleye.ccbr.umn.edu (Carlton
Hogan) wrote:

>In article <36114369.663373706 at netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
> <johnburgin at worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>On 28 Sep 1998 16:39:26 GMT, carlton at walleye.ccbr.umn.edu (Carlton
>>Hogan) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <360c01bb.318827338 at netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
>>> <johnburgin at worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>>>On 25 Sep 1998 20:47:08 GMT, carlton at walleye.ccbr.umn.edu (Carlton
>>>>Hogan) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>One more comment: If you are in fact a dentist, and believe that 
>>>>>presence of antibodies means you have conquered an infection
>>>>>(counter examples: syphilis, herpes, hepatitis and most damningly
>>>>>leishmaniasis, leprosy and schistomasiasis, where higher antibody
>>>>>titers are prognostic for WORSE clinical outcome) then I am very concerned
>>>>>for your patients. Such staggering ignorance in a medical professional
>>>>>is outrageous.
>>>>now who's guilty of handwaving!jb
>>>
>>>Simple yes/no question: do you believe that the presence of pathogen-binding 
>>>antibodies  automatically mean that the pathogen has been "conquered"
>>>by the host?
>>If you'll answer with a simple yes or no to the question that i have,
>>I'll do the same for you.  Has or has not the AIDS establishment
>>focused on the lack of immune protection from an HIV positive status
>>been determined by the conclusion that these HIV antibodies are
>>"non-neutralizing"  thus exempt from the rule of protection?  Jb
>
>Handwaving. You posted that a positive antibody response means you 
>have cleared an infection.Do you, or do you not believe that?

Yes or no, dummy.  jb
>
>Carlton
>>>
>>>Carlton
>>>
>>
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