Source of bad smells: rotten eggs,skunk cabbage, etc.

K N and P J Harris ecoli at cix.compulink.co.uk
Sat Nov 30 13:29:27 EST 1996


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> Summary: Looking for microbiological treatise on source of unpleasant 
odors such as rotten eggs, skunk cabbage, sour milk, etc.
> Keywords: bacteria, bad smell
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> Hi
> I'm writing a children's book on gross smells.  One of the premises of 
the 
> book is to provide a scientific explanation of the sources of such 
everyday 
> unpleasant odors such as rotten eggs (I kind of doubt it is hydrogen 
sulfide 
> or that the yellow of egg yolks is from sulfur), skunk cabbage 
(perhaps I 
> should check the botanical sources?), sour milk, etc.  I have a handle 
on the 
> basic function of the olfactory system, but am at a loss to find 
> information on this stuff.  Is it bacterial fecal matter that causes 
the odors 
> or what? 
> Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Luann
> luann1212 at aol.com
Comments so far are on the ball.
Another thing to consider is that most of the evil smelling amines are 
produced under anaerobic conditions. in other words, conditions of 
decomposition that are rapid enough to use up available oxygen.This 
means that they can be "buried" within a mass of decomposing material 
and only released when it is stirred ! A stagnant pond is a good 
example. "Bad eggs" (hydrogen sulphide) may often be produced by 
organisms seeking an "alternative" to dissolved oxygen by "using" the 
oxygen locked up in sulphate ions - hydrogen sulphide can result. Hence 
the interest in "sulphate reducing bacteria (SRB's).
Other "gross" smells can be from even simpler compounds like butyric 
acid (rancid butter smell). This can also be the reason why silage can 
smell repulsive if things have gone rather wrong with the microbial 
fermentation.

For the kids it might be useful to point out that evil smells are very 
useful to carrion feeding flies as an indication of where there might be 
a good meal. So keen are some flies on tracking down the source of the 
bad smell that fungi such as Stinkhorns produce their own evil smell 
deliberately to attract flies which then help in spreading the fungus 
spores around.
All this reminds me of an old research colleague who used to say "It 
might look like manure to you but it's my bread and butter".
Best wishes,
Peter Harris,
Reading, UK.




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