Metabolic products of pathogenic bacteria
Scott Coutts
scott.coutts at med.monash.edu.au
Thu Feb 12 21:00:24 EST 2004
N10 wrote:
> "Jane Gonzales" <jrpatto at emory.edu> wrote in message
> news:BC51243F.27E6%jrpatto at emory.edu...
>
>>Good Morning!
>>
>>I'm attempting to provide the research for chemists devising a new method
>>for detecting pathogenic bacteria in food, and have what I thought would
>
> be
>
>>a simple question. However, after several days of intensive research, I
>
> have
>
>>not been able to put my finger on it, most likely due to my lack of
>
> working
>
>>knowledge in microbiology!
>>
>>Would anyone be so kind as to inform me where I can find a list or
>
> database
>
>>(or ANYTHING!!) of the metabolites/products/gases/stuff exuded/given
>>off/produced by bacteria,specifically those involved in food poisoning and
>>food spoilage? I've located a database of metabolic pathways, but do not
>>have the background to determine which of the end-products would actually
>
> be
>
>>excreted by the cell into the environment.
>>
>>I am grateful for any help that is offered!
>>
>>---
>
>
> Hi Jane
>
> I really dont think you are going to be very lucky on this one unless you
> can a find list of
> exotic compounds ,characteristic and specific to the types of organisms you
> have mention.
>
> Im fairly familar with the metabolic products of most group II food borne
> pathogens and nothing really stikes me as target
> which might be usufull as an organism specific identifier in a food matirx.
>
> Frankly I would be predict that detection or quatation by metabolite
> production would be a very
> unreliable technique for many reasons.
>
> Firstly consider the example of Salmonella which may be present but capable
> of infection in levels as
> low as 10 cells per KG of food mateial !!!! You are not going ot detect
> many metabolites from that level of contamination
> and then ad the various factors of metabolic stress due to food processing
> and things become more even difficult for you.
>
> Pcr based systems would and do however detect such low low levels of
> contamination with accuracy and rapidity.
>
> Also unless you go for exotics my guess is that most food matrices will
> contain a mozaic of microbial metabolites in
> almost random patterns depending on the type of processing and various
> factors relating to ingredients.
>
> Also may metabolites are common to several genera and few are group
> specific enough in isolation to
> unqiuely identify a particular organism or even genus of organism.
>
> Genreal metabolite detection and their effect on conductivity and
> capacitance was the basis of Impdeance technique.
>
> These were higly non specific and required elegant cultural situations to
> produce
> presumtive isolation of specific target organism..in other words cumbersome
> and at best an interesting system for no specific pesudo quatation.
>
>
> If you turn your attenion to toxin detection as an idndicator of specific
> pathogenic contamination then you pressuppose
> toxin is produce in all instanses of contamination which it is not.
>
> I really dont want to pour water on your vison but the best tools we have
> for rapid and accurate detection of food borne pathogens
> todate focus around PCR and ELISA assay. Ememrging techquies invovle probes
> tragetign cel wal structures and intra cellualr structures but
> not metabolites.
>
> Perhapes you could expand a little more on the proposed technique just in
> case I havent fully understood the direction thi sresearch wil take.
>
> Best N10
>
This is a database of genes that are sorted into biochemical pathways
that might be of some use... you'll have to browse around for a while
though, I think, to find anything that you might find useful, since it's
not really designed for this kind of thing. Anyhow, it has a lot of
pathways listed, so maybe it's of some help.
http://www.genome.jp/kegg/kegg2.html
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