Fungi fd. 1/25/03

dcb cgrossby at yahoo.com
Mon Feb 17 05:00:43 EST 2003


According to Arora, both Exidia and Tremella species are
called "witch's butter", so Daniel and Alter are both correct:

Exidia glandulosa == "Black witch's butter" == "Black Jelly Roll"
Tremella foliacea == "Brown witch's butter"
T. mesenterica [== T. lutescens] == "Witch's butter"


In article <SQn2a.83138$F63.1701274 at news.xtra.co.nz>, "Jerry C"
<ja_cooper at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Tremella lutescens Pers.:Fr 1822 is now considered to be a 'nomen dubium',
> i.e. a name of uncertain application with no traceable type material and an
> insufficent original description to unequivocally determine its current
> taxonomic status. Consequently the name should be currently disregarded.
> E.g. see P. Roberts, British Tremella species I: Tremella aurantia and T.
> mesenterica, Mycologist v9 , pp110-114, 1995.
> In the UK, T. mesenterica can vary from orange to nearly hyaline (the names
> T. albida and T. candida are also nomina dubia but likewise probably
> represent environmental variation within the single taxon T. mesenterica).
> All Tremella spp., sensu stricto, are parasites on other fungi (even if it
> isn't obvious). In the case of T. mesenterica in Britain the host is
> corticioid.
> 
> Jerry Cooper
> 
> "Daniel B. Wheeler" <dwheeler at ipns.com> wrote in message
> news:6dafee1b.0302101037.62d3d707 at posting.google.com...
> > "e.hutton" <caterpillar at amuscaria.uklinux.net> wrote in message
> news:<nhnr1b.002.ln at localhost.localdomain>...
> > > Daniel B. Wheeler wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Alter S. Reiss" <alterreiss at yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:<b1nq6h$140uei$1 at ID-72420.news.dfncis.de>...
> > > >> "e.hutton" <caterpillar at amuscaria.uklinux.net> wrote in message
> > > >> news:6fhe1b.g35.ln at localhost.localdomain...
> > > >> > Alter S. Reiss wrote:
> > > >> > > "Daniel B. Wheeler" <dwheeler at ipns.com> wrote in message
> > > >> > > news:pgpmoose.200301271056.7007 at net.bio.net...
> > > >> > >> Fungi found Jan. 25, 2003 at Paul Bishop's (a week before the
>> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >> Witch's Butter (sorry, forgot the scientific name)
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Tremella Mesenterica, IIRC.  I rather like it in those "cup o'
> > > >> > > noodles" type ramen soups.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > Sorry you recall incorrectly. Tremella Mesenterica is Yellow Brain
> > > >> > Fungus. Witches' Butter is Exidia glandulosa = E. plana =
> E.truncata,
> > > >> > and is
> > > >> black.
> > > >>
> > > >> I suppose this is one of the perils of using common names -- the
> fungus
> > > >> that I know as witches butter is usually yellow, and occasionally
> orange.
> > > >> Lincoff (the Audubon Field Guide), and McKnight and McKnight (the
> > > >> Peterson Field Guide) agree with me on what witches butter is
> (Lincoff
> > > >> calls E. Gladulosa "Black Jelly Roll", and the McKnights call it
> "Warty
> > > >> Jelly Fungus", for what it's worth), but it wouldn't take much to
> > > >> convince me that there are places were "Yellow Brain Fungus" means T.
> > > >> Mesenterica, and "Witches Butter" means the id you try it in
> > > >> ramen soup?E. Glandulosa.
> > > >>
> > > >> So, Daniel -- what color was the stuff you found?  And d
> > > >
> > > > The material is bright yellow, but fades to a nearly transluscent
> > > > yellow-whitish gray in extreme age. I haven't tried eating it. But I
> > > > understand it can be pickled and candied.
> > > >
> > > > Daniel B. Wheeler
> > > > www.oregonwhitetruffles.com
> > > >
> > > Two countries divided by a common language again.
> > > Here in the UK Witches' Butter is E. Glandulosa. Obviously the US of A
> > > agrees to differ. Daniel's fungus, being bright yellow, is clearly
> > > Tremella Mesenterica. I have never seen enough to want to try its
> > > edibility - none of my books regard it as edible anyway.




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