Could the dead hear and feel?
Philk at ix.netcom.com
Mon Apr 10 04:29:31 EST 1995
In <3m9fph$nf5 at news.duke.edu> carswell at acpub.duke.edu (Brett Carswell)
>Charles Hokanson (Phnxbmed at ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>: While the original question and content of the text seem more
>: appropriate to a religious or philisophical mewsgroup, it does raise
>: interesting issue, That of the definition of death. It has long been
>: accepted that the clinical signs of death are lack of vital signs,
>: heart beat and brian wave activity. And that in the absense of these
>: for some length of time, cell and tissue death occur. It had been
>: thought that this process occurs rather rapidly (minutes). However,
>: this process can be slowed (or stopped?) by substantially reducing
>: temerature of the body.
>: A recent TV program showed a surgical procedure in which the heart
>: brainwave activity of a patient were totally stopped for one hour.
>: of the blood was removed from the body to reduce the pressure of a
>: large brain aneurysm. Once the aneurysm had been deflated, it was
>: clamped off. The temperature of the patient was gradually increased,
>: and the vital signs were all restored. Apparently, thousands of
>: procedures have been performed in Russia for many years, utilizing
>: hypothermia techniques.
>: Therefore, back to the original question, Can the dead hear or feel?
>: would seem to depend on your definition of death. The woman who
>: underwent the procedure neither heard nor felt while she was "dead'
>: normal clinical standards. And the absence of brain wave activity
>: seem to indicate that she did not think either. However subsequently
>: she lived.
>: It would seem therefore that a definition of clinical death would
>: to include a refernce to cell, tissue and organ death, such that when
>: sufficient cell, tissue and organ death has occured, the host
>: human in this case, can not be restored to life.
>: As to the many reported cases of, out of "body experiences" and
>: light experiences" of people who presumably died and then supposedly
>: come back to life, there is sufficient scientific evidence to debunk
>: this nonsense as nothing more than lack of oxygen, and/or reaction to
>: anestheic gases.
>: Finally, as to the religious answer, I don't know what other
>: teach, however since you mentioned a catholic, and presumably
>: judeo-christian perspective, I refer you to Ecclesiastes Chapter 9
>: Verses 5 and 6:
>: " For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing
>: all. They have no further reward and even the memory of them is
>: forgotten. Their love, their hate, their jealousy have long since
>: vanished; never again will they have a part in anything that happens
>: under the sun."
>: and Job 19: 25,26 :
>: "I know that my redeemer lives and that in the end he will stand upon
>: the earth. And after my skin has been destroyed, yet in my flesh I
>: see God."
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