love and neurotransmitters

Prat Itharat pitharat at
Thu Jan 19 16:05:47 EST 1995

In article <3f99dp$3eb at> greggt at (Thomas R. Gregg) writes:
>From: greggt at (Thomas R. Gregg)
>Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience
>Subject: Re: love and neurotransmitters
>Date: 14 Jan 1995 14:41:45 -0500
>Organization: University of Delaware
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>>>> >Between mof2n at fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Milton Omar Faison)'s comment 
>>>> >
>>>> >>I was watching that BRAIN show on the Discovery channel and
>>>> >>heard some information that I find hard to swallow.  They
>>>> >>attributed love to a release of dopamine, norepi, and epi
>>>> >>which, beyond the fluttery heart and sweaty palms, also leads
>>>> >>to a loss of logic or "love."  I'm only in my first semester in
>>>> >>a neuroscience grad program, but i haven't heard anything that
>>>> >>justifies this, and I was wondering if anyone could provide
>>>> >>some kind of justification to this.

>How about Schacter's theory of emotion perception?  One's body goes into a 
>state of autonomic arousal (Norepi), and one *interprets* that state as 
>love, anger, fear, etc., depending on the circumstances.  This would 
>correspond to a peripheral release of norepi, in the sympathetic nervous 
>system, not central norepi activity.

Exactly.  For example, if you are being chased, you will have the essentially 
the same sympathetic reaction.  But, it depends on whether you are being 
chased by a track star of a dinosaur that causes us to feel motivation (and 
many other emotions] in the former case or fear in the latter.
>>All of our thoughts and feelings, no matter how euphoric or bizzare are 
>>due to interactions of neurochemicals, neurons, hormones, etc.>...

I have to disagree on that point.  We just don't have enough evidence to come 
to such a conclusion at this time.  If all of our thoughts and feelings are 
based on neurological interactions and changes, how can you explain the 
multitude and vast range of emotions that we have?  How can you explain the 
combination of emotions?

>It's safer to say thoughts & feelings are *correlated with* neural activity.

Perhaps neural activity is "correlated with" thoughts and feelings.  Let me 
propose a very radical idea [in terms of how the scientific community views 
it].  Let's assume that we have a "mind" that is a separate identity from the 
brain.  The mind controls our thoughts and emotions [of course, with inputs 
from the brain].  This, in turn, causes neurological changes.

Someone [I forget who, I'm sorry] in a follow-up post asked what else there 
was besides these changes.

      There is the mind.   There is the unconscious.

Besides, what exactly is love?  How do you know you are in love?


ps)  I did not mean to offend anyone.  If I did, I am truely sorry.  I'm just 
trying to express what I believe in.

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