eeg recording and generator in sulcus
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> From: kspencer at s.psych.uiuc.edu (Kevin Spencer)
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> Subject: Re: eeg recording
> Date: 10 Sep 1996 23:07:59 GMT
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> Marcus <73370.2242 at CompuServe.COM> writes:
> >Since the brain has many folds & invaginations, many of the
> >apical dendrites would not be at right angles to the surface of
> >the brain.
> That's correct -- the fields coming from a gyrus project radially,
> or perpendicularly to the surface of the scalp. But the fields
> the bank of a sulcus project tangentially to the scalp surface.
> Now let's say we have a focal source, say an evoked potential. If
> source is being generated in a gyrus, the field will be maximal on
> scalp directly above the source. But if the source is in a bank
> sulcus, the maximum of the field will be some distance away from
> source -- perhaps even in the other hemisphere. And if both sides
> the sulcus are active, the fields from the two sides will cancel
> other out.
> > Why isn't this a problem in assuming the valididty of
> >EEG recordings ?
> The EEG is what it is... but the conclusions you draw from it may
> may not be valid. It wouldn't be valid to conclude that a
> source is directly under the recording electrode, for instance,
> using other measures. This is the "inverse problem". It can be
> with measures such as current source density, and by dipole
> BTW, magnetoencephalography (MEG) is sensitive to tangential
> radial sources. So you could get a more complete picture of
> fields of the brain by recording EEG and MEG simultaneously.
> > Would local field potentials recorded from one
> >laminellar layer be a more suitable means for determining the
> >activity of a brain area and perhaps for investigating the
> >relationship between say, midbrain structures and the cortex ?
> Yes, I think so...
> Kevin Spencer
> Cognitive Psychophysiology Laboratory and Beckman Institute
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
> kspencer at s.psych.uiuc.edu
Re potential recorded from source in sulcus.
The potential measured by a monopolar electrode
at a distance from a dipole generator is not only
dependent on the equivalent dipole voltage, but
also on the solid angle subtended by the dipole
at the electrode. The dipole is considered to be
generated by a cortical layer of pyramidal cells
discharging synchronously. The solid angle concept
is used to demonstrate the difficulty of recording
the potential generated within a sulcus lying at
right angles to the scalp surface.
See Gloor P. (1985) Neuronal generators and the
problem of localization in electroencephalography:
application of volume conduction theory to
electroencephalography. J. Clin. Neurophysiol.,
2(4): 327-354. John Shaw.
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