"Abductions" DO NOT exist :They are misinterpreted sleep phenomena

Dirk dirk.felix at nospam.pandora.be
Fri Apr 10 21:28:51 EST 1998

Don P. wrote:

>  Dirk  writes:
> #Don P. wrote:
> #
> ## My theory:
> ##
> ## With or without Mr. ET, humans have been developing very
> ## efficient disc aircraft  since the 1930's.
> ##
> ## The facts:
> #
> # <snip>Very interesting stuff, Don !
> #
> #
> ## To the ETH proponent:
> ## Why is it that Mr. ET can develope such incredible disc
> ## crafts and humans cannot??!!
> #
> #First off, let me say that I believe in the possibility that aliens exist.
>   First off let me say that you either misinterpreted my statements
> or simply did not grasp my views. Maybe this was my fault, if so
> I'm sorry for not making my point MORE clear.

Nope, I didn't misinterprete it, but since I don't post here very often, I only
wanted to give you my point of view on alien life since I guess you didn't know
whether I was a believer or sceptic towards the existance of alien life. Of
course, considering the rest of my post, my point of view was very obvious so,
euhm... my explanation was kind of unnecessary.

<major snip>
I enjoyed reading your points of view and I misjudged them based on one
I completely agree with what you said.

> #
> ## Questions:
> ##
> ## What would humans have to gain by keeping this
> ## technology hidden?
> #
> #Humans as a race ? Nothing !National Army Forces or governments ?
> #Everything !
> #
>    You are getting close here. Not humans as a whole, not governmenst,
> and not the military. The owners of this technology would be the
> National Security Agencies and the Big Businesses that control
> them.

Of course ! Sorry, I'm not American, I always thought that NSA was part of the
government. Ain't it?

> #
> ## Even *if* Mr. ET is visiting, I say WHO CARES!
> ## It is the technology that is important, it is the tehcnology
> ## that can benefit the inhabitants of this planet, and not the
> ## facts regarding the origins of man.
> #
> #One hell of a statement ! So, you don't care about "life" ?
>   I do care about life. When I say "inhabitants" I mean all
> life, even Mr. ET (if he is visiting).

I understood that from your previous remarks (which I snipped to keep this post
a bit shorter)

> How can you equate the
> facts of alien visitation with me not caring about life?? Heck
> if Mr. ET does exist, and was hungry, I be the first to invite
> him over for dinner.

Well, in fact it were the words "WHO CARES!" that give me the hint. To me your
statement sounded like "Who cares whether or not they are visiting us, let's
just benefit from their technology!". It gave me the impression all you cared
about was the technology and not the life who created that technology. I admit I
misinterpreted that statement.

>  Clearly you failed to grasp the meaning of this statement.
> My concern is for the technology that will save this planet
> and ALL life on it or that visits it.
>  That fact that I DO care about life is the purpose and
> central dogma for such a statement.

Well, I would have dropped the "who cares".

> #Is all you care
> #about "technology" ?
>  I care about finding an energy source through the UFT's that is
> cheap (or free) and non-polluting.
> #I would be by far more interested in the fact that they
> #"exist", than in their technology !
> The facts they they exist will not help the Cheetah, the children
> starving in third world countries, and the destruction of the worlds
> rain forests.

I doubt their technology will be used for that purpose. For many problems there
are solutions but they aren't used. If all the money we put into warfare and
weapons would be used for a better cause many problems could be solved but it
doesn't happen. I probably put it in a simplistic way but I'm sure things can be
done but apparently, the human race (as a whole) is too stupid to do something
and those who try just don't seem to be able to make the difference. Although I
might be wrong, I very much think that a superior technology will be used to
create more powerfull weapons and other stuff (not all negative) but I doubt
they are gonna use it to save starving children or to stop the destruction of
the rain forests because we don't even need it to solve these problems.

> The fact they they exist would benefit are knowledge of the origins
> of man and could bring about a VERY MUCH NEEDED advancement
> in spiritual and religious beliefs.
> #Their technology might be important for our technological evolution and we
> #could learn a lot of it but saying that you don't care whether or not they
> #exist and that you just want to benefit of their technology in case they
> #exist shows to me, once again, how un-intelligent human beings can be.
>   So, by me wanting to end the burning of fosil fuels, and use
> of nuclear energy, so that life on this dust ball last quite
> a bit longer is "un-intelligent", than I admit I am one very
> "un-intelligent"  person!

I'm pretty convinced by now you are not :)

> I care more about the future of this planet for my children
> and your children, than I do about the origins of man or the
> simple facts or falsehoods of alien visitation.
>  We (humans) have an immediate need, and that is our environment!!
> You can spend you time dreaming about what it would be like
> talking to Mr. ET. I will spend my time exploring the technology
> that I think is used to power and propel fying disc aircraft,
> be them human made or alien made.
> #You'd probably kill an entire race in order to get hold of their
> #technology. That's so typically human : No respect for life !
>   I would do NO such thing. I don't kill spiders in my house,
> or step on earth worms on sidewalks. I certainly would not
> consider killing any creature for personal gain.
>   Quite the opposite my good man. My respect for the life that
> originated on this planet or elsewhere is greater that you
> could ever possibly imagine. I just assume scrafice myself
> for the greater good (perpetuating ALL life) any day of the
> week if need be.
> #(I dearly hope you made that statement without thinking
> #about what you were saying)

Ok, I withdraw that statement !

> #Don't get me wrong : I do agree their technology would be very important to
> #us, but even more important is the fact that they exist !!
> #
> You can't feed a starving child with a fact that Mr. ET
> exists.

And I very much doubt that we need Mr. ET's technology to feed them.

> On the contrary, with advancements and disclosure of the
> Unified Field Theories (that humans have had for almost 100
> years), could be used to benefit the starving child, the
> environment, and humanity as a whole.

Well, I'm just a simple human being and I'm not familiar with these theories but
I'll try to do some research.

> While UFO proponents and skpetics quibble over the existance
> of Mr. ET, I prefer to insevtigate the human technology that
> is used to power such crafts. If and when I get lucky enough
> find answers to my questions, then they will be diclosed for
> all.

That would be nice. I can't wait to hear them.Besides, I never said the quibble
over the existance of aliens was more important!

> If Mr. ET is visiting this planet, then great, we need to
> solicit their help to benefit the environmental problems that
> are facing us today, inorder to perptuate our life and the
> life of any and all visitors.
> If you think this reasoning shows that I "don't care about
> life", or is "un-intelligent", then I stand guilty as charged.

All, these explanations because one "who cares"! :)Well, I enjoyed reading them
and I must say that I agree with you very much.
And I really do hope that an eventual alien superior technology will be used for
the good causes like helping starving children and such (I am no scientist so I
wouldn't be very good in doing the research you do) but I, personnally, don't
give it much of a chance that it will be used that way on a major scale. If it's
a hidden human source, it would prove only more that it wouldn't be used for
those purposes, otherwise we should've used it already a long time ago but
again, other items seems to be more important.

> Thanks for your response. Have a good Friday!

You're welcome. Have a good Saturday! :)
And Easter weekend!

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