"Abductions" DO NOT exist :scientists should fight this crap,like Carl Sagan did

Etherman etherman at mdc.net
Sun Apr 26 12:58:50 EST 1998


twitchb at worldnet.att.net wrote in message
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>"Etherman" <etherman at mdc.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>Love Lies Squealing wrote in message
<35412108.15460428 at news.demon.co.uk>...
>>>On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 19:53:21 -0400, "Etherman" <etherman at mdc.net> wrote:
>>>
>>><snip>
>>>>Again, Mr. Pongpa, please provide evidence that the "abduction"
>>>>phenomena is purely psychological.  How long will my requests
>>>>to pseudoskeptics be ignored?
>>>
>>>For as long as it takes for the rosy dawn of realisation that people have
>>>been seeing little faces in dream-like states for quite a few years now.
>>>Check your copy of the Malleus Maleficarum for a rough overview of things
>>>a mere five centuries ago (300 years before McDonalds!)
>>
>>Sure, people have been seeing lots of things for different reasons.
>>Occasionally
>>it's because what they see is really there.
>
>Would you please post some evidence for this statement?


I suupose that if you believe that all sensory input is illusory
then there is no evidence that will convince you otherwise.
However I assume that you believe you're own eyes.

>>>Now, if you're interested in the root cause of 'abductions' start taking
a
>>>really good look at what is peddled out there as truth.  Start with
>>>foot-doctors and Ceto.
>>
>>
>>What evidence do you have that the root cause of abductions is related
>>to media representations of abductions?
>
>The fact that all of the abductee's stories don't agree like
>we are normally told that they do is one good piece of
>evidence that they aren't real.


Bull.  As you know people who see the same thing don't always
agree on every detail.  Contradiction occur even when people
are seeing real events.

>>><snip>
>>>>The problem is that Sagan himself didn't have any reasonable theory
>>>>about abductions.  It's difficult to educate the public when you're
>>>>as in the dark as they are.
>>>
>>>Actually he came up with one single interesting item that should be at
the
>>>forefront of anyones investigations into these things;
>>>
>>>Succubi and Incubi.
>>
>>
>>That's not a theory.  I completely agree that similarities exist.  Not
>>just with succubi and incubi, but with faeries, angels, demons, etc.
>>Instead we have the obvious question.  What are succubi and incubi
>>caused by?
>>
>Depends on whom you ask.


Exactly.  Saying that abductions are the same as succubi is no explanation
at all.

Etherman

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