Toward a Science of Consciousness 1998
jac at ibms48.scri.fsu.edu
Mon Apr 27 07:49:10 EST 1998
tonmaas at xs4all.nl (Ton Maas) writes:
} "Mdg" <Mdg at nospam.com> wrote:
} >Leads me to a question I always wondered about, say we hit the point where
} >we can actually map a human brain to a fine enough detail that we can
} >simulate it's behavior on a computer. Will the simulation be conscious?
} According to neurophysiologists Varela & Maturana consciousness is
} restricted to autopoietic systems - which by definition produce their own
} organization by an evolutionary process not unlike "tinkering". Seems like
} the conscious computer will have to invent itself from scrap in order to
} ever attain consciousness :-)
patrick at gryphon.psych.ox.ac.uk (Patrick Juola) writes:
>Unfortunately, this definition is immediately and trivially incorrect.
>Individual humans do not evolve; evolution is a process restricted to
>populations. An individual human (which I assume is conscious) is
>largely a copy of prior humans -- and so a sufficiently detailed copy
>of a human organism should also be conscious, by a similar process.
Largely, but part of that "copy" is a brain that is a work in progress
whose structure is not wholly dictated by genetics. Although not
evolution in the strict sense of evolutionary biology, the brain
does change and adapt. A 'sufficiently detailed copy' would have to
include those rules that allow the 'tinkering' the previous posted
noted was important.
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