"Abductions" DO NOT exist :scientists should fight this crap,like Carl Sagan did

Love Lies Squealing Love at [nospam]corrode.demon.co.uk
Wed Apr 29 12:26:32 EST 1998


On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 18:03:55 -0400, "Etherman" <etherman at mdc.net> wrote: 

>
>Love Lies Squealing wrote in message <35412108.15460428 at news.demon.co.uk>...
>>On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 19:53:21 -0400, "Etherman" <etherman at mdc.net> wrote:
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>><snip>
>>>Again, Mr. Pongpa, please provide evidence that the "abduction"
>>>phenomena is purely psychological.  How long will my requests
>>>to pseudoskeptics be ignored?
>>
>>For as long as it takes for the rosy dawn of realisation that people have
>>been seeing little faces in dream-like states for quite a few years now.
>>Check your copy of the Malleus Maleficarum for a rough overview of things
>>a mere five centuries ago (300 years before McDonalds!)
>
>Sure, people have been seeing lots of things for different reasons.
>Occasionally
>it's because what they see is really there.

Without a doubt, but you's expect something interesting to have come from
all the research that took place over five-hundred years to break this
deadlock of witness testimony, not something that has happened.

If you nip back to Salem, you see some interesting cases in point
regarding motive.

>>Now, if you're interested in the root cause of 'abductions' start taking a
>>really good look at what is peddled out there as truth.  Start with
>>foot-doctors and Ceto.
>
>
>What evidence do you have that the root cause of abductions is related
>to media representations of abductions?

Oh, I don't.  You want evidence, go looking.  However, there is a wide
variety of aliens reported before CE3K, which narrows down to just a
couple of types afterwards.  Check out what Vallee says about abductions
these days.

>><snip>
>>>The problem is that Sagan himself didn't have any reasonable theory
>>>about abductions.  It's difficult to educate the public when you're
>>>as in the dark as they are.
>>
>>Actually he came up with one single interesting item that should be at the
>>forefront of anyones investigations into these things;
>>
>>Succubi and Incubi.
>
>
>That's not a theory.  I completely agree that similarities exist.  Not
>just with succubi and incubi, but with faeries, angels, demons, etc.
>Instead we have the obvious question.  What are succubi and incubi
>caused by?

Start with Sleep Apnea, and follow that with some research into all sleep
disorders.  Don't treat it as an explanation for all, but start following
the trail of what we do have, rather than endlessly speculating.


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