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K C Cheng kccheng at postoffice.idirect.com
Fri Nov 6 10:04:54 EST 1998


dag.stenberg at helsinki.nospam.fi wrote:
> =

> K C Cheng <kccheng at postoffice.idirect.com> wrote:
> > Not by too much. If we see how action potentials are the only stimuli=

> > coming in to give rise to various sensations,  we must question what =
are
> > in those AP to distinguish one from another stimulus and therefore on=
e
> > sensation(colours, or sound pitches, etc.) from another, and one
> > corresponding resulting memory from another.   What can be in the sam=
e
> > type of action potentials to differentiate each specific stimuls from=

> > others?
> =

> Are you disregarding the "time code" (temporal pattern of signals), the=

> "population code" (the activation/inhibition of various neurons
> influencing each other) and also the complex, ongoing modulation of
> nearly all membrane properties and second messenger systems of neurons?=

>   If you are disregarding virtually everything that consists the neural=

> signal code except for the bare action potentials as isolated,
> non-interdependent phenomena, then I can more easily understand that yo=
u
> seemingly have discarded all modern neuroscience and created your own
> introspective mysticism.
> =

> Dag Stenberg
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None of the "codes" has been ignored.  They combined together would not
allow for this kind of frequency-specific sensing and remembering. =

Timecode:within several minutes, you must admit that an action potential
size and shape would not change for the same neural fibre. But what
different sensing can be achieved in those minutes for different pitches
of sound or colours?   Inhibition/excitation: what does it matter how
many neurons are inhibited when at least the same type of neurons,
pyramidal cells, for instance in the cortex are multimodal in sensing? =

The Law of Specific Nerve Energies is wrong.   Are you suggesting
different neurons would give rise to different sensations?   How can
then pyramidal cells in the visuval cortex "see"  and in the auditory
cortex "hear?"  =

Sorry, no time to repeat myself.  Just a little into what I have been
proving and disproving.
However, you are welcoe to come up with more questions.  I'll try to
answer them.  But, I hae no time to repeat myself too much: I have dealt
with all such other possibilities in my video and earlier volumes. I
have considered all possible factors and excluded the unsound ones. =

Besides, electromagnetic particles have been proven to enter to
stimulate neurons, be registed as such and able to be re-sensed.
At the time of sensing, it's also remembering. When retained in the
neurons and reactivated, that would be re-sensing--remembering....
Can neuronal inhibition/excitation, time code. . . account for and
accomplish all that?  =

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