request good review article (ECT)

K C Cheng kccheng at postoffice.idirect.com
Sun Nov 15 19:03:35 EST 1998


F. Frank LeFever wrote:
> =

> Again, kccheng shows his ignorance in a most embarassing way (if he
> were capable of shame, that is).  MRI involves a powerful
> electromagnetic force, but ECT involves direct electric current
> passage.  =

And you don't think direct current would cause more electromagnetic
erasing than mere external magnetic field???????  If not, why use ECT,
and not  MRI machine to "treat" clinical depression?
You or I ignorant?
Shame or no shame?
> =

> Let me hasten too say, however, that the neuropsychololgical data do
> NOT support the idea of a massive permanent loss of memory (either in
> the sense of losing old memories or in losing capacity to form new
> ones) in therapeutically applied ECT.  When exactly was this Dr.
> Cameron operating?  Possibly before refinement of therapeutic ECT
> techniques?
>I thought informed people like you must have known about this notorious =
CIA experiment for which the agency later paid these poor victims' famili=
es about $96,000 each.     =

> F. Frank LeFever, Ph.D.
> New York Neuopsychology Group
> =

> In <364DC7CF.6B65 at postoffice.idirect.com> K C Cheng
> <kccheng at postoffice.idirect.com> writes:
> >
> >Nizar Hajjage wrote:
> >> =
> >
> >> K C Cheng wrote in message <364B9030.B00 at postoffice.idirect.com>...
> >> John wrote:
> >> > Basically, memory has been finally proven beyond scientific doubt
> to =
> >be
> >> the
> >> > storage of the electromagnetic particles arising from, or
> generated b=
> >y
> >> > stimuli outside of the central memorineurons.
> >> =
> >
> >> I don't understand something. If memory was electromagnetically
> stored =
> >in
> >> neurones, shouldn't an external magnetic field erase it, eg after an=

> MR=
> >I or
> >> after a magnet is placed near the head? Or is there another
> explanation=
> >?
> >Re above:
> >This is a rather sound observation. However, the marvel of the neurons=

> >is that they can retain such memory pieces despite such ordinary
> >measures to  erase them. But, as the infamous CIA-sponsored Montreal
> Dr.
> >Cameron was doing,  with repeated electroconvulsive shocks,  the poor
> >patients' memories were wiped out: de-programmed, showing that with
> >unusual electromagnetic efforts, our memories can be so erased,  thus
> >once more attesting to the electromagnetic nature of memories.
> >-- =
> >
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