wej3715 at scully.tamu.edu (Walter Eric Johnson) wrote:
>Cijadrachon (cijadra at zedat.fu-berlin.de) wrote:
>: Dear Budding Neurologist, this might be part of your aspired future:
>: >wej3715 at fox.tamu.edu (Walter Eric Johnson) wrote:
>: >K C Cheng (kccheng at postoffice.idirect.com) wrote:
>: >: Walter Eric Johnson wrote:
>: >: > K C Cheng (kccheng at postoffice.idirect.com) wrote:
>: >: > Eric Johnson
>: >: If that is your definition of a "kook," I am not one either. However,
>: >: don't you think you call me a "kook" in that restricted sense too
>: >: early? How do you know I do not wish to contribute to knowledge? I
>: >: just said that I have a 10.5 hour video coming out to make it
>: >: comprehensible to even high school students. Why you want to jump to
>: >: conclusions when you don't know enough to esteem me, much less paying me
>: >: the right esteem you give to Einstein?
>:>: 1 point for unrealism, 1 for eg.3 imbalances and a bunch for
>>I assume you are deducting said points. Or are those "kookiness" points?
I do not think that word would be in my pretty old and not very good
The points you get by taking phi times "aiming over your thumb"
and smothing the results via the goof tables.
>I find it hard to take anyone seriously who takes Carlos Castaneda
He did not understand a lot of his source(s) and from there some was
quite wrong, too, but he managed to repeat a lot, though he did not
Take The Art Of Dreaming.
As far as I recall I did not read all of it but in the parts I read
most of the time he did not understand the intructions and did other
stuff that I found interesting in itself, but still repeated a low
of the instructions the correct way.
And that I find remarkable about him.
Sometimes when reading his stuff and his source mentions something
that I am after and then he does not track it bit goes on for
eternities about starter stuff that if you are into sense-enhancers
like LSD is rather obvious, as mesc and other stuff might be
different, but there are alikenesses concerning sense-enhancing
powers, then I could sometime shout "you imbecile Westie fail-product
of sense-censored deeducation" or something like that at him, but all
in all he is not doing that bad, and taking magic per pages factor
the ones I got of him are interesting, though I just have three, as
the starting ones did not sound that interesting to me.
Tales of Power for example are that.
I heard from Tensegrety that he got complaint from across the planet
from different magic branches for hammering out secret data about
magic to people where he did not even know if they were really far
enough for that.
On the other hand I guess he was bright enough to explain a lot the
way that if you do not do what he says or know already enough about
it, that a lot you will simply not get.
And I know that he was not that far in some things, though much
further than I in some others.
Take the bit about the last secret in Tales of Power:
Not just the own clusters.
Theoretically also in another head.
>If you have any references to thousand year old papers on
>the synapses, please post them whenever and wherever relevant.
Given how high the chances are that someone actually has some odd
transmitter defect, that makes that one is not produced removed or
whatevered at all or not the correct way,
I do not htink that ever was of interest.
And the magical stuff is transferred magically, straight from brain to
brain telepathically. People like the druids and shamans and from
what one hears some in Australia and other places I guess never had
the idea to write that down.
It would not make sense.
That is like trying to make something 3-D 2-D or 2-D trying to
explain a pyramid's insides.
Also why would you write down secret data?
So any idiot can get it or what?
If you have it anyway, then you have it.
The people you chose to teach magic you insturct personally for
decades. Or at least in many of the old systems that was or still
I do not think anyone ever had the idea to be that interested in
transmitter, more in what happens if you stick drugs in and what you
can reach with that.
Maybe if yo have nothing to do such idea, rather irrelevant thingies
for healing are of importance, but most magicians I guess are more
into how to get hundreds of kilomters far or how to heal, and for
that the little sizzling stuff is important.
A synapse would be the zone between the two.
In the brain you can sort of get vaguely cell clusters in, sort of
like vague points-sectors, I heard of one who got a bit bunch of axons
in at onces like distant light-lines if I recall right, but I do not
know how you would get a synapse in.
Nor really what that would be good for.
Already targetting a cell cluster in what you call cingulate I would
risk damaging mine, they do not seem to appreciate to be docked to
with my central force.
Even if I could target a single cell I am not sure if I would.
I might be afraid to grill it.
It is not meant so.
It is meant to give instructions via many axons and using the magic
fields to the other areas.
It is not meant to with the power of the central grill into one
single axon or cell of a sector.
That might be why no one did.
And just one question:
How do you get into the gap?
Try to get the magical capacities for that, and when you have them I
sure would be intersted in a linking and transfer of the according
But we start on your side, and you aim into your gaps, not into mine.
Might take me some hours to get the sector even vaguely sharp enough
and a bunch of days or weeks to transfer, though...
As I guess it might take you some decades, as from all you say you
have not even understood yet, what Castaneda means with "seeing",
I guess I'd have to wait a while....
But while you advance you will find out why the interest for that was
And just for the unlikely caes you take it serious: I recommend front
half cingulate areas for practicing.
They are sort of in front - above of the own door and I call that
region "my playground".
There you can powerfully restructure to your needs a lot, though you
should take some regards to not taking systems too much and not
going too far away from human, or you might join the autist club...
I am nor sure how to do it.
My first guess would be to take a real big area, so that you don't
overload it centrally sort of parking there, and then you just
practice going smaller and smaller a lot.
Then you axon out there, and they might poewr up to meet your needs.
Once you have built yourself the right highways to comfortably park
there and play there, it narrow down, but watch that you don't hurt
themm as then it might be like where they talk in this room about
epilepsy, that they get more sensitive once hurt for a looooong time.
If yo umake such an area, make it more to the middle and start out
maybe on both sides.
My playground used to hate it when I targeted one side and ignored the
Maybe not as bad as making them run different, but maybe not wise.
Guess if you were to sort of do as if you look at two fingers apart
evenly, and then more to one but not ingoring the other completely,
then that might be easier for cingulate.
Then you can try to find out if it works and how long it takes you to
and once you found out how long it takes,
you'll get an idea why the non-torturing ones likely never had the
idea to go for something as irrelevant for that.
Many were the physical and mental healer and religious leader of
they had a lot to do and to know,
and not such idle stuff to be out for.
And the chances that someone really has something wrong there and you
can't just cure it by logging into the sector parallel and evening out
whatever your according sector deems wise,
do not sound as high to me, that someoe would bother.
I believe they were more after having the powers and skills for the
>As far as Cheng's honesty? He claims to have all these great
>things he has discovered (460 volumes worth!) but everything
>he posts is pure, unadulterated crap.
He is further than most in this room in some stuff.
>Would you call such claims "truthful"?
Maybe I am not good enough in English, as to me what you said about
snake stuff sounded as if you accuse him to cheat other on
intention, and he believes into what he does, and in that he is
truthfull, and what the whole truth is, few know.
He said that he can prove some of what he wrote about, and at least
with some that would be possible.
Only that what he writes about is ot even as far as starter levels
of energy-telepathy concerning energies.
>: Thou shouldst work on they widom more (like me, too;-)
>>I'd hardly call taking LSD "working on wisdom".
It is. It is one of the most powerful ways to work on it.
If you are not wise, you'll likely crash, the less wise the more.
LSD is the type of drug weeding out the unwise quite drastically.
Some might hop out the next window, others might psycho-crash...
> Anything but that, actually.
What it is not good for is what you call the frontal cortex whatever,
the part of it that I call front computer.
That one suffers a lot from it.
Minus a big big bunch on intelligence I might say to a
Though I do not know if that is to do with the stuff they are mixed
with here in Berlin, it is also medium bad for the kidneys.
There are a lot of changes in the basolateral part of the amygdala,
but I am not sure with me if they are good or bad, I have not
decided that yet, and I am too unhuman concerning stuff to do with
that, so there I guess I am too different to really say in general.
I take it that you do not know LSD well.
All hwo have taken LSD long thta I know have a wisdom that is above
You simply don't take higher amounts of LSD often, without having
or getting it, or you very fast crash and then maybe stop taking it.
>In other words, intent is lacking? In reality, he is not honest
>...and if he is not honest with himself, how can he be
>honest with the rest of the world?
And some people might know where they are not honest with
themselves, but still know that they are not there and might simply
eveade there when with others, without being dishonest to good
>: To the opposite if someone were to ask me how many hours of work he
>: has put into the thing, I do not exclude that the price is low if you
>: were just seeing the working hours.
>>But effort is no measure of value.
On another level it is, that you do not understand.
If it were for me if Cheng was to ever die in an age without
thieves, I'd say stick a glass house nearby with all his works in
there and some couch to read and stuff to watch his stuff...
Acually with quite some graves such a room with them would be
interesting for me.
> If it was, the downfall of Hitler's Third Reich would be considered a great travesty because
>of all the effort he and others put into creating it.
If people had not been such idiots they would have learned from it.
Instead they are heading there again.
Germany is wasting a lot of money to try to be first in the EEC, the
modern KZ is called Landeskrankenhaus, geschlossene Psychiatrie,
and most people do like sheep what they are told, and don't nother as
long as they are not bothered.
The CDU, sticking you men into a cage when they refuse to be their
slaves for a year, and maybe work in their army and be the ruling's
force, had some advertising thingie with a young soldier, distracating
your attention from driving away from the humans on the street, to
read "Freedom"... or another one "Safety intead of Risk" .. while you
drive 50km/h and read their shit at the sides posted where you were
taught to look out for signs important for traffic.
There are people here sio grrdy to rule others that they stick their
image-heads to places where looking at them could cost other real
heads their life while you drive.
And the sheep just watch.
5-sensed, of course.
A modern Hitler could take over here faster than you might think.
Same soon going for the USA.
Most have not learned.
They have learned to be master race was bad,
to be first world is good.
I believe the only thing that would bother some for real is if you
were to make a law forbidding the ownership of video-machines and
Anything short of that would not be important.
> Instead, we must measure value by other means which may be much harder to
Laotse.... who wants to measure needs to understand the scales...
...Hot and cold are of a bigger...
Ever looked magically at the "scales"?
..The more you know the more you know how little you know...
> By other measures of value, Cheng's life work may very
>well be worth less than if he had spent his life cleaning out
No, it is more worth that way, as a pig does not belong into a pen
nor ne forces to remain in the own shit.
And Cheng's life is worth the same whatever he does from the point of
You are judging a person not for being a person.
And seem to believe that you can judge the value of another life.
It might be the value that it has for you.
But if you are eating people like pigs and are for people being in
prisons, then for me already in comparison to pigs my value is set.
For a lot of people their life is worth what their life is worth for
A lot into the mind or outside but busy with it, there is a reason why
they are that fanatically after it.
>: >If you really had something of value, you could publish it in
>: >the peer-reviewed journals.
>:>: Who apart from some Westies would do that?
>:>: I know a few who sit on an enticing mound of data that I have been
>: laying siege to for a while, but alas, they seem about as willing as a
>: stubborn dragon weighing a ton that you try to drag by his tail from
>: the pile to depart with it or at least share the treasure.
>>I'd seriously question whether that "enticing mound of data" was
>anything other than "rotten eggs" if all they do is sit on it. I
>can see that for commercial reasons, someone might not share their
>results outside of their company.
You are thinking too Westie.
Do you think a powerful magician or some brainsurfer with sector data
that just he has and has no interest in you folks having, is going
to simply hop around going "I have it, I have it!"?
And let's say if I find a mound of data enticing, then I do have my
And with rotten eggs there is a trick to let eggs swim on water and
watch if they sink or float...
Concerning data, as long as you are not a sickie, would you tell the
sickies where to go gutting around in the brains of people of the
It is enough to tell them that we are in the cholinergic limbic
systems and that they are wrong to cut in people of the other mammal
If they go on anything past that shows that it is not to help people
but to maim and make little ALs or something like that.
They do not een use telepathy, and no one I know of the telepaths
would want to share brains long enough with a sicko cutting around in
other people non-consenting.
That would be like asking a magic healer to dock with an evil one to
give him data.
I do not know about your place but here in Germany it there are very
few people who are into magic, and I only met very few, and they rae
not the kind to tromp around proclaiming it.
There has been and to an extent still is persecution of magic here.
The ones I met communicate magically.
If you can understand magic, then they might dock with you.
Same as you might not discuss art with someone blind and proud of
being blind and with his blind's stick pocking around in rats' eyes,
to examine them with his fingers,
to learn more about seeing that way.
>: Two I know are studying stuff not to do with neuro, are jobbing at
>: the same time to finance their flat in Berlin (prices are not that
>: cheap here) and food, insurance and so on, might go shopping in
>: between, do the laundry, their mail, bring back stuff to the library,
>: learn alone or with a friend for a test, work around on some
>: computerstuff, and maybe play a computer game or see friends when they
>: finally have a bit of time, to relax at least a bit.
>>It doesn't sound like they're doing any serious research.
They work on what they study, but that is not neuro.
The one into bio said something that I do not recall right, sounded
like the (???)phylogenese being sorted wrong or something like that,
I have forgotten,
I just know that it meant that the groups of the living beings
according to her opionion should be put together in different groups
in many cases, and that she thought a new system should be made with
more correct groupings of them, and that that back then was one of
her dreams of doing in her life.
And she had her a lot of her place crammed with books about animals,
bacteria, biostuff, and often was on the computer with a stack of bio
books next to her,
so I guess whatever it was, it can't just have been idle doing
>And which branch is that? Most people think I'm interested in too
(Definitely something Westie.)
>: >: I can refund you academics
>: >: if you're not satisfied that it's proven beyond the slightest scientific
>: >: doubt.
>:>: Minus one snake oil bag for Johnson
>>Cheng seems to be under the impression that we should spend a huge
>amount of effort going through everything he has written and that
>anything short of that is very unfair to him. He seems to think
>that his 460 volumes are so great that everyone should drop what
>they are doing and read them -- that it is our duty to hear him
>out. In reality, it is his duty, if he wishes to be heard, to
>convince us that what he says is worth our time and effort. So
>far, all his arguements have had exactly the opposite effect.
I don't think he has to convince you.
I guess if someone has something interesting enough people will know.
In my eyes concerning what Cheng studies you and neuro are further
back than he is, so that is why he is so upset it, telepathically
regarded he did not even get the basics yet.
And I am still at the basics there and must say that where he is,
within telepathy you could be ways further within a week if you
And also I sit on my little mound of rotting eggs as well, and they
have been rotting nearly two years and too many were squished back
but if I look at what is left there is still enough that I can judge
a bit about other mounds.
That's like having played chess and after a concussion not being
able to do much anymore, but still able to follow games a bit.
Though maybe stuttering when asked to explain your thoughts about it
or your hand not coordinated right from the brain if trying to lifting
a piece and it drops.
In other words just that I said that I'd like to watch Frank guessing
about memory does not mean I know zero, though I do not think that
until know it ever has interested me overly much, apart from the
And the candle game I want another player for for other reasons.
>I suspect that Cheng's pet cat understands the brain better than
Well, has to, to get at food.
The human can openers and carressing machines that you graciously
allow to live in your territory occasionally need to be thought
into to be reminded of their proper functions.
>: <stupid magic stuff snipped>
(I know that I am a starter and too handicapped for most areas of
magic to EVER learn much there.)
>: >Experience rapidly teaches one that someone who is not highly
>: >knowledgeable about a scientific discipline is extremely unlikely
>: >to be correct when asserting that the current theories are wrong.
>: The ones who know nothing about them I often like best.
>>Does whether you like them have any bearing on the matter?
I have never thought much about that I guess.
Hmmm. I guess if I would hate them, I might hate to slime to them too
much to get at their data, and if they'd surfed each sector singly.
(Overdone, never heard of that, most just can do a few.)
I guess a lot of bearing if I meet one on the net has spelling.
The worse, the better.
Basically when I get the impression their language structurer seems
like a cell-crippled ruin linked to with the far fewer axons of a
but given the damaged front computer, what is said still sounds like
a very logical and self-critical person,
and then they tel me they go brainsurfing on LSD,
these are what you might term the golden eggs for me.
If they stick a blockerp-drug into that, and then go sector-surfing
and analyzing, yesssss....
>: They are not rotten by dumb theories, but simply point at their head,
>: and tell me how deep in from there and what that does there.
>>In other words, nothing matters but halucination?
Maybe you are, I did not say that.
But sometimes I do not know, because I could never perceive there,
and was too lazy to check beuro stuff.
Since we are at that:
How do the neuros call the area from the top of left ear just
minimally more forwards more forwards, from there about 4 cm up, to
where there is sort of the skull bulging out a bit, there 1 cm inside.
Also: Where from that point is the next data canal channeling in
data from the other side of the brain + name?
Where from there is the nearest connection (+ name) towards centers
to do with hearing of the left side?
>: While many shamans and others have been linking via hundreds and
>: sometimes far more kilometers for ages, neurology has discovered
>: recently that there are different fields in the brain and is
>: puzzling about their meanings.
Stay longer in this room and you will get will get them.
I am not going through all old posts to find out who babbled about
different forms of energies in sectors last and wondered about that.
Idries Shah in some book even talked about a bloke magically reading
headlinesof the Times, from India in England in a time with no phone
nor satellite nor the like, and that when the Times came (by ship, if
I recall right) it was correct. I do not know if that one is true,
but if so that's a stunner.
Heard from and met enough people having met distance telepaths with
planet-wide sending powers to their partner or friends oir
colleagues, but reding the times across the planet is sort of one
where I really wonder.
The point of getting from India to England I can still understand a
little, as I have "seen" (the way C Castaneda means, though not
dream-ranges, but more brain ones) enough people "leaving their body",
but how the hell you get a paper sharp and the read black on white
not even in your own language likely, that one is a riddle to me.
I guess theoretically it is possible, as I see no reason why not,
but practically to practice till being able to get to tune in that
far away with such detail, ...wuaoh.
So that's where I do not know.
Also I do not know India, I never linked brain-energies with someone
from India. With some people with black skin I needed 3-4 times
longer to tune to them and there were far more signals that I did not
get than usually, and a Roma (reknown for magic here) who had grown up
here in Germany, the secong time I showed her magic perception stuff,
wen through the ceiling with her energies, and when she came back and
I asked where she had been, she told be that she had been in space.
I have never seen enything like her energy ranges before, they were
distinctly different from the usually rather crippled German ones
I had linked with and also distincly different from those of people
with black skin.
She claimed that some of her ancestors likely had to do with India as
well, and I do not know enough about the Roma to know if that might be
so or not.
And I do not know how much differences there are between the peoples
of Earth within magic perception.
Therefore even if you read about someone doing something or a whole
bunch of people from one related genetic group doing something, that
does not mean that oneself can do it.
And I have wondered long if the magic skills of the peoples had to do
with genetical aspects as well.
I have seen some people places in Africa with black skin with a skull
so huge where the parietal cortex was, and even the occipital area
seeming a bit bigger, that I would not bet a gummy bear on that there
are no differences to magic capacities to do with such stuff.
Basically the sources here in neuro or in India or America or
whereever interest me considerably less than brainsurfing with seven
each of a people, and also having magicians from their people give
tasks out to all participants and then watch the differences.
So maybe you have a Roma give the task to extend into space the way
she does and an Mexican Shaman to stay awake in dreaming and then
"leave: and link with the mind of another magic dreamer, and one from
Peru to "see" bones and organs, and an Indian Yogi telling to "float"
up from the ground, and a magic perceiver from here tell to alter
stuff on a certain monitor,
and so on, and then I'd like to watch how they are doing at it.
Maybe having (of each people) seven not magically trained ones and
seven who are might be nice.
That'd be a show I could "watch" for a looong time.
Only I guess the dear Yogis might resist such Earthly base desires
as of the spiritually low developed as me, heehee ;-)
Sorry, feel like joking:
Well, from what I understood there is some bloke in alt.consciousness
offering faster being released from such a awful fate as having to be
reborn again and again, to be found under something vaguely
resembling "What Guru-Bhacteria shabd all over my floor".
Maybe given the right spiritual incentive they might be dragged,
maybe still in lotus position to the meeting place, lol...
Sorry, lack seriousness, if I could draw, I might draw a Yogi aloft
floating above the floor, face the other direction towards a temple
door, and me with a lasso dragging him behind me, saying over my
shoulder:"Don't feel perturbed by this..."
And in front of me two signs, one with kilometer amount from India to
Germany, and the other to the airport.
>: >To do the work you claim to have done would require a great
>: >deal of organizational skill just to keep things straight.
>: >You haven't shown signs of such skill.
>:>: Nearly half a thousand books?
>: Some videos and so on?
>:>: I guess you simply never tried to write that many,
>: and that is why you say so.
>>Like I said, effort is no measure of value.
Try making that many books and a film without any oranizational skill.
The organizational skill is not that important nor keeping things
The desire burning behind is and that you are not too handicapped to
still manage some basic things.
Ever heard of Stephen Hawkins or some name like that?