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Thinking without language?

kenneth Collins kpaulc at earthlink.net
Mon Nov 22 16:46:29 EST 1999

you got the 'picture'. sorry that i didn't come up with words that're

cheers, ken

Peter T. Daniels wrote:

> kenneth Collins wrote:
> >
> > hi, Mr. Lee. as you are, perhaps, aware, folks whose 'language' is communicated via
> > symbolic 'pictures' (as 'opposed' to an 'alphabet') show different post-stroke deficits
> > than do folks who use 'alphabets', and vice versa.
> >
> > which demonstrates that 'thought' must be 'elsewhere'... not in 'language', but, at
> > least, a superset within the neural architecture.
> Please learn something about what you're talking about before posting
> something like this to sci.lang. There are no "pictures" ("symbolic" or
> otherwise) in the logographic scripts that originated in China. What
> neurological differences there may be between Japanese and English
> agraphias (and this is where it has most been studied) have nothing to
> do with "pictures" vs. "alphabets." It has to do with levels of
> representation (morpheme vs. sound), for instance.
> It would be better if this whole thread on thinking WITHOUT language
> were to simply disappear from sci.LANG ...
> --
> Peter T. Daniels     grammatim at worldnet.att.net

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