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Mind a no-brainer?

patrik bagge patrik-b at online.no
Thu Jan 6 14:25:51 EST 2000

Brain and Mind are different species as are hardware and program.
I see Mind (program) as purely an abstract (non-physical) entity; Brain
(computer) as a purely physical entity. Thought is a physical (Chem.,
elec) process, but "meaning" is not. Mind is the meaning of thought.
This is my own understanding of such.

i disagree a bit and when one comes close to the atomic level
, the distinction disappears.
A running program (processor) is the physical movement
of electrons according to the specification (program)
The human brain has, of course, some more chemical/biological
'stuff' going on.
The 'program' of a human brain is very complex and includes
not only reason and conscious thought, but also many
subconscious information processes. Furthermore
it's a , from experience, selfmodifying piece of 'wetware'
One has to admire the engineer... whoever that was.

Yes it is amazing to me that
brains can process thoughts, even of thought itself. But, I don't think
brains can understand themselves, not ever. That would require
understanding understanding itself. As you approach it, it changes.
Your very observation modifies it. Like the uncertainty Principle.

Well, if one should try to 'understand' ones current thoughts
and processes, it gets very self-referential.
I was suggesting more at a 'functional' module level.
Part A does B and inputs C while producing D.
If all modules could be modelled/understood this way
we would have come far. In the equation one also has
to put all experience until current point in time for a particular
individual + pre-programmed instincts.
Makes complete analysis a bit tricky.

'funny' sidenote:
since we seldom really forget anything and the brain
probably stores some concepts/experience by permanent
chemical / connectivist states, there might be some
'knowledge' past death.... interesting thought, no?


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