getting past emergentism

RoyBoy aphycho at
Tue Apr 10 21:38:41 EST 2001

If you like, consciousness must be - in order to create the set -
outside of the set of all conscious phenomena. To then explain  it in
terms of things within that set seems to me to be skating on very thin
ice indeed.

Teacher: Now class, what is that called?
RoyBoy: ~ohohohohoh~
Teacher: Yes RoyBoy?
RoyBoy: Is it called "Russell's Paradox"?
Teacher: No.
RoyBoy: Damnit!
Teacher: Russell's Paradox demonstrated that Frege's axioms of
set theory can be used to define a predicate'--- is not a member of
itself' and defined the set of objects which are not members of
themselves, and he then asked whether the predicate is true or
false of that very set.  It's easy to see that if it is then it isn't,
and if it isn't then it is, which is paradoxical.
RoyBoy: I need to go to the washroom.
Teacher: No.
RoyBoy: Damnit!

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