philosophy of mind

Mike Dubbeld miike at erols.com
Mon Dec 24 20:04:13 EST 2001


"Glen M. Sizemore" <gmsizemore at triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:WSIV7.99570$RE3.16673306 at typhoon.southeast.rr.com...
> > If the processes of the brain are governed by
> > universal, temporally static laws of physics, would
> this not throw free
> will
> > out the window?
> >
> > Any feedback is appreciated.
> >
> > db
>
> Peter: I wish that people that hinge their
> philosophical questions on "free will"
> could make sure they define what kind of freedom
> they are referring to, and
> what level of expressed "will" (endogenously
> generated specific drives,
> motivations, and intellectual inclinations) that they
> imply are "free".
>
> But since you, who do pose such questions,
> obviously can't.... I shall
> continue to have plenty of opportunity to be pissed
> off at seeing them here
> and elsewhere. :-\
>
> GS: Curiously, the ways in which many
> neuroscientists talk about behavior is not
> incompatible with free-will. Perhaps the most
> obvious examples of this involves "executive
> functions" and so forth. But most of behavioral
> neurobiology is similarly afflicted. Indeed, anytime
> we hear the brain or parts of the brain discussed in
> terms that refer to the behavior of whole organisms
> (like when the brain - or mind for that matter - is
> said to "know" to "see" to "decide" "read maps"
> etc. etc. etc.) we know that we are not far from the
> miraculous. Most behavioral neuroscientists want
> the prestige of science all while talking about
> behavior/brain relations in ways that avoid important
> philosophical questions and, thereby, foster
> adherence to a useless, largely pre-scientific view.
>
> Glen
> "Peter F" <fell_spamtrap_in at dingoblue.net.au> wrote in message
> news:3c26cff5$0$12982$afc38c87 at news.optusnet.com.au...
> > "db" <no at email.com> wrote in message
> > news:01HW.B84AFD3C00022CF015A25AF0 at news...
> >
> > > If the processes of the brain are governed by
> > > universal, temporally static laws of physics, would this not throw
free
> > will
> > > out the window?
> > >
> > > Any feedback is appreciated.
> > >
> > > db
> >
> > I wish that people that hinge their philosophical questions on "free
will"
> > could make sure they define what kind of freedom they are referring to,
> and
> > what level of expressed "will" (endogenously generated specific drives,
> > motivations, and intellectual inclinations) that they imply are "free".
> >
> > But since you, who do pose such questions, obviously can't.... I shall
> > continue to have plenty of opportunity to be pissed off at seeing them
> here
> > and elsewhere. :-\
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
>
>





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