The Problem of Racism

Larry Bennett larbenn at hotmail.com
Sat Feb 17 21:43:33 EST 2001


"Marcy" <marcyatwork at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1tBj6.27891$HG.6567196 at news4.rdc1.on.home.com...
> Which is a very important issue to face right away. What are some steps
that
> could be put in place to deter such false diagnoses?
A mandatory second
> opinion?
Research into second opinions would be of interest.  In psychiatry, it seems
the most severe diagnosis has a way of sticking.  Most chronic mental
patients get numerous opinions via readmissions, etc.  However the diagnosis
rarely changes.  IMHO the increased use of psychological testing would help.
Psychological testing is improving.  Schizophrenia is now known to be a
neurodevelopment disease.  The cognitive profile of a schizophrenic on the
WAIS is known, and brain scans may eventually be of some help.  MMPI and
MCMI profiles can provide helpful guidance.  Although schizophrenia remains
a dx of exclusion, we could be more careful with differential diagnosis.  In
general, the diagnoses are made by psychiatrists via clinical interview.
Since it is common knowledge that "there is no litmus test" for
schizophrenia, these psychological measures are underutilized.  Not to
mention how expensive psychological testing is.  (How expensive is it to
institutionalize and give neuroleptics to someone with Manic Depressive
Illness with poor results, when, with the proper medication their chances of
leading a normal life are excellent.)If fact, many alleged "schizophrenics"
do not have a personal history which is compatible with the natural history
of the disease.

Match race of doctor to patient?
In one study the race of the physician had no effect on the accuracy of
diagnoses.  AA psychiatrists were just as likely to misdiagnose AA patients.
This was a rather weak study, BTW, based on MDs reviewing brief patient
history, rather than clinical interview.

In part, this may be related to the apparent fact that mania may present in
non-white individuals with increased hallucination when compared to their
white counterparts.



Make everyone stand on their head
> and swear to never tell a lie? It seems silly, but the negative racist
> results can be drastic I assume. Could you compare it to other
professions?
> What about teachers, managers, or movie directors (just throwing out what
> comes to my head first). What is done in other professions to decrease the
> effects of racism?
>
>
> Larry Bennett <larbenn at hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:PG9j6.1972$GX2.538228 at typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > Of interest is the problem of racism in medicine.  Racial bias exists in
> > many areas of medicine.  Diagnosis and treatmet bias as been repeatedly
> > documented in cardiology and psychiatry for example.  African Americans
> are
> > overrepresented with diagnoses of schizophrenia, and underrepresented
with
> > diagnoses of manic depressive illness.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Marcy" <marcyatwork at hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:x4Vh6.138791$V22.28008865 at news4.rdc1.on.home.com...
> > > If a child grows up being around people of all races, they understand
> all
> > of
> > > the different facial features, and is not afraid (as adults) of
> different
> > > looking people. Their notion of what is attractive is also more open
> > minded
> > > because they've had more face types to pull into their world, all
being
> > > acceptable and pleasant. People are afraid of what is not as familiar
to
> > > them. Racism is an uncomfortabiliy, fear, of the unknown. Ignorance
> > really.
> > > I believe this has to do with exposure. Religion in some cases ensures
> > > little exposure to anything that is different - whether it's other
> races,
> > > religions, sexual preferences, lifestyles....
> > >
> > > So it may not matter if you have a soul or not. Sold mine to the devil
> > years
> > > ago...  ;)
> > >
> > > Marcy Italiano
> > >
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> > > John H. <johnhkm at netsprintXXXX.net.au> wrote in message
> > > news:95bnco$v86$1 at news1.wire.net.au...
> > > > Yes, inbuilt component, racism is not just a doctrine, its part of
our
> > > > nature. Recent study suggested that when looking at people from
> > different
> > > > races we have trouble differentiating faces because we are focussing
> > more
> > > on
> > > > the racial features than the face as a whole. The poison runs deep.
As
> > for
> > > > christianity being a cure, well like most religions it only feeds an
> > > > incipient racism. So St. Paul may have stated in Galatians that
there
> is
> > > no
> > > > Jew or Gentile, slave or master, we are all one in Jesus Christ but
> that
> > > is
> > > > crap. The history of the church proves that. Now what was that 100
> years
> > > war
> > > > about in Europe?
> > > >
> > > > John.
> > > > Remove 4x
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > liar42 at aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:20010126082136.29770.00001032 at ng-fz1.aol.com...
> > > > > > Racism is a doctrine
> > > > >
> > > > > Has it ever occured to you that there might be people who also
react
> > to
> > > > > internal bioprograms telling about differences?
> > > > >
> > > > > Someone said in a text about how to make friends in less than some
> > > > minutes,
> > > > > that a lot of people like people like themselves, and therefore to
> > > imitate
> > > > them
> > > > > is a rapid way.
> > > > >
> > > > > The observation, that many people like people like themselves, you
> > seem
> > > to
> > > > > disregard completely, like here could be no natural basics for
that
> > and
> > > > > everything to do with racism must just be some doctrine.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >Islam (where believed that white people are devils and/or
demons),
> > > > >
> > > > > Could you point out where it says that in Islam teachings?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >> Nazism (where believed that the Aryans are the master race of
the
> > > > world) <<
> > > > >
> > > > > The folks there have advanced, now they honk into space that they
> want
> > > to
> > > > be
> > > > > the first world in the universe.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is noteworthy who follows.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >Christianity (where believed that only through Jesus can a person
> > > > > obtain spiritual salvation).
> > > > >
> > > > > Thought one of the Gods was considered rather relevant, and some
> > > > generalized
> > > > > holy spirit, and that Jesus was considered relevant in his
> teachings.
> > > > >
> > > > > But I am not of that religion, just thought there was some sort of
> > > triple
> > > > power
> > > > > whatever consisting of those three.
> > > > > Seemed to me that they regarded one of the Gods relevant in the
> > > salvation
> > > > > thing, and Jesus to be nnot that God, but that he declared himself
> and
> > > > > everybody, wether Hindu or Buddhist or of Germanic religion or
> > believing
> > > > in
> > > > > Wakantanka, Greek or Roman Gods, etc.
> > > > > to be a child of the God he believed in. Also irregardless if they
> > > > assented or
> > > > > not.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >> All racist doctrines fail in all aspects when it is understood
> that
> > > the
> > > > > "soul" that resides in any person as the basis of individual
> > existence,
> > > is
> > > > the
> > > > > exact same "soul" that resides in the people <<
> > > > >
> > > > > I have no soul. You are babbling nonsense.
> > > > >
> > > > > But just to check out of you are also babbling it about yourself,
> > > > > specify exactly what a soul is precisely of,
> > > > > so in case you are coming with some proof there I can get what you
> > mean.
> > > > >
> > > > > You are in your way like a racist. You take your soul belief, and
> > > declare
> > > > it
> > > > > for 6 billion other humans, not even knowing them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Scientific fact is, there is no soul ever proven, that is like the
> > > Easter
> > > > > Rabbit.
> > > > >
> > > > > You are taking your sould belief, and try to force such silly
stuff
> on
> > > all
> > > > on
> > > > > Earth, as if just because you need such a psych-crutch means, that
> > > > everybody
> > > > > else has to get such forced on him by you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Scientific fact is we are not all the same. We are having
different
> > > > genetics.
> > > > >
> > > > > Magically it has been for a long time how differing human
people(s)
> > are.
> > > > >
> > > > > You are holding a rant on b.s.
> > > > >
> > > > > That goes not just for trying to force your creed on every human
on
> > > Earth,
> > > > >
> > > > > but also for your near-death b.s.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have no soul, and I was several times near death.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is not one single detail description what a soul is supposed
> to
> > be
> > > > off of
> > > > > all persons I heard.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > When I asked some of the spirit traveller, if they can extend to
> > > centering
> > > > > outside, so I can perceive about that, they did that, so for me
> there
> > is
> > > > no
> > > > > doubt about it, that those people can do, at will when they wish.
> > > > > I could well perceive their spirit centering outside, and the main
> > > > > transconnecting "beam".
> > > > >
> > > > > From the soul claimers they never showed me what a soul is.
> > > > >
> > > > > There always just came hollow babble, that sounded with most like
> they
> > > > fear
> > > > > death, and need some psycho-crutch belief that after death there
> will
> > be
> > > > no
> > > > > decaying, but some wonderful eternal going on or something like
> that,
> > > and
> > > > that
> > > > > to me registered as one of the main reason they were so
desperately
> > > > clinging to
> > > > > something as silly as some soul belief.
> > > > >
> > > > > >As a biologist I am convinced of the likelihood of the validity
of
> > NDEs
> > > > from
> > > > > the viewpoint of quantum physics.<
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you had the direct view of quantum physics,
> > > > > are you referring to facts there or theories,
> > > > >
> > > > > and why would one need quantum physics opionions for something
like
> > near
> > > > death
> > > > > experiences, where there are lots of stories around with people
> spirit
> > > > > extending out our or perceiving some tunnel; I would assume that
> such
> > > was
> > > > long
> > > > > known before quantum physics came up.
> > > > >
> > > > > Not that I wish to say that what in my language might be called
> > > > feinstoffliche
> > > > > and where in your language I might now select magic systems are
> > nothing
> > > to
> > > > do
> > > > > with what quantum physics is talking about.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > More that I do not get what they are relevant concerning a near
> death
> > > > > experience,
> > > > >
> > > > > as I would assume wether they do or do not have, that there are
> atomes
> > > and
> > > > > "feinstoffliche" (not hardware) energies in them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also I am not sure if quantum physics is really into "the
likelyhood
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > validity".
> > > > >
> > > > > But then again, maybe some there are.
> > > > >
> > > > > ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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