brain sizes: Einstein's and women's
parsetree at hotmail.com
Sat Aug 3 02:40:51 EST 2002
"John Knight" <johnknight at usa.com> wrote in message
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> "Parse Tree" <parsetree at hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > "Richard C. August" <raugust at ptd.net> wrote in message
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> > > Dear Parse Tree,
> > >
> > > Really, even the most highly credit-worthy homeowners in the USA do
> > > entirely own their own property.
> > That's their fault, not the a result of the cost of homes. My parents
> > their house, and it's certainly higher than the median house listed in
> > index.
> parsetree, you and lojbab seem to have a REAL problem comprehending the
> "average". One single anecdote doesn't and cannot invalidate the AVERAGE
> which Mr. August is referring.
"Really, even the most highly credit-worthy homeowners in the USA do NOT
entirely own their own property."
A single case counter example is enough to invalidate this statement.
> If you need someone to explain this to you [again], just ask, but it's
> counterproductive for you to dispute a statement about the *average* in
> country with one single possible outlier.
He should have said the average then. Regardless, I haven't seen any stats
to support this, even for the average.
> > > I am a loan application taker for a local Home Improvement Co. which
> > > assists clients through mortgage refinancing and debt consolidation,
> > > order for them to "afford" more expensive but badly needed or highly
> > desired
> > > home improvements. When I am taking the credit application, I ask,
> > your
> > > name the only name on the deed?", many times the clients respond,
> > and
> > > the Bank's." They answer this way because they KNOW that the Mortgage
> > > Lenders have placed LIENS on their homes in case of "default" on the
> > > mortgage. Of course, "default" means FORECLOSURE on the home.
> > >
> > > Welcome to the United Kibbutzim of Amerika, Reb Parse Tree. Your Goy
> > > is OWNED by the very BANK that charges you INTEREST on the GDP of your
> > anus.
> > > Personal Property is a PRIVILEGE, not a RIGHT. Your rights of owning
> > > private property are only "covered" with a thinly veiled THREAT that
> > you
> > > don't dance to the high interest rate tune that you're charged for
> > > purchase, then you have no right to YOUR property that YOU may have
> > > purchased outright!
> > I'm not charged interest for purchases. You shouldn't be either.
> If you're on this planet, you ARE being charged interest, every day. If
> you're in the US, your share of the debts is $77,000 per household
> which means that our putative 15% gross savings rate isn't even enough to
> pay the interest on those debts (which is why we have a NEGATIVE personal
> savings rate).
The national debt is paid for by taxes. Those are usually taken throughout
the year, and usually don't come from savings.
> > > Here's why this condition exists. Our DOLLAR used to be on the GOLD
> > > STANDARD. That meant that you could trade a dollar for an equivalent
> > weight
> > > in gold, and you could sell that gold back for that same dollar. Now,
> > > dollar is OFF the gold standard. Gold prices fluctuate as a
> > only
> > > usable by the very wealthiest people. Our dollar, meanwhile, isn't
> > > the paper on which it's printed.
> > Gold really isn't used outside of electronics and jewelery.
> An infinitesimally small percentage of gold is used commercially. The
> majority of it is STILL used as national deposits.
> The value of the dollar against an ounce of gold barely changed for the
> years between 1792 and 1933, then all of a sudden it fell by 33% (not too
> long after women began to vote and right when jews took charge of our
> national bank). The next year it fell another 10%. But it stayed at that
> level for 9 years, when it fell another 3% (in 1944). It fluctuated
> $35 an ounce for the next 22 years, then suddenly dropped 14% in 1969, and
> it's been on a downhill slide ever since. In 1987 it was worth 1/25th as
> much as it was worth for the entire 141 years right up to 1933.
It shouldn't of changed at all until it was deindexed. The dollar was
supposed to represent a specific quantity of gold.
> You're DEAD WRONG to think this isn't a problem. It wouldn't have
> if women didn't vote, because men would never have permitted the jews to
> take charge of our national bank.
Gold is worthless. An abtract number is a safer situation then a physical
unit. Also, gold is limited because there is a finite amount of it. Money
shouldn't have such a constraint.
> > > Let me put it to you in layman's terms. You own a store, and I come
> > > buy something from you. I have two items in my hand which I can use
> > pay
> > > you for your item. One is an ingot of 99.9% pure gold. The other is
> > > highly artistically decorated piece of paper with a dollar sign and a
> > > denomination value written on it, with nothing more than a "written"
> > > guarantee that it will buy the denomination's value of a good or
> > > Knowing that you can use the gold for everything from trade value to
> > costume
> > > jewelry, and that that piece of paper can be consumed to light your
> > > cigarette, which would you choose?
> > I'd take the cash. The value of gold is based on perceived value, since
> > has no intrinsic use. Since money has the confidence of a nation, and
> > fiat currency, it would be safer to go with it.
> > Regardless, I can buy a can of pop for a dollar. Evidently dollars are
> > worthless, else that could not happen.
> A can of pop was 5 cents for as long as many living Americans could
> remember, which should be another clue to you that the vulcanized
> US dollar isn't worth anything near what it was worth before the jews
> our "bankers" and judges.
A can of pop has been a dollar for my entire lifetime.
> A thousand ounces of gold in 1932 was worth $20,670, but today it's
> supposedly "worth" $271,000.
> What changed about that 1,000 ounces of gold? Nothing. It's intrinsic
> value is identical to what it was in 1932. The difference is only in the
> 13 fold decrease in the value of the dollar--nothing else.
Gold has more uses now then it had then. It's intrinsic value HAS
increased. Gold wasn't really used in electronics in 1932.
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