brain sizes: Einstein's and women's

Richard C. August raugust at
Fri Aug 9 19:28:21 EST 2002

Dear Joseph,

You either believe in Heaven or Hell NOW, or you will believe in it when you
pass from this earth.

And, you prove how two-faced you are, when you say there is no "pure" good
or "pure" evil when you state that the blessing of the altar was a means of
chasing away evil.  You either have pure good, in Christ as God, or you have
pure evil, in everything else.

Concerning the Our Father, in the First Petition, Dr. Martin Luther, in his
Small Catechism, interprets thus:

"1] Our Father who art in heaven.

2] What does this mean?-Answer.

God would thereby [with this little introduction] tenderly urge us to
believe that He is our true Father, and that we are His true children, so
that we may ask Him confidently with all assurance, as dear children ask
their dear father.

3] The First Petition.  Hallowed be Thy name.

4] What does this mean?-Answer.

God's name is indeed holy in itself; but we pray in this petition that it
may become holy among us also.

5] How is this done?-Answer.

When the Word of God is taught in its truth and purity, and we as the
children of God also lead holy lives in accordance with it. To this end help
us, dear Father in heaven. But he that teaches and lives otherwise than God'
s Word teaches profanes the name of God among us. From this preserve us,
Heavenly Father."

How dare you preserve to have the GALL to presume that invoking the Our
Father is merely a means of grabbing God's attention.  God is NOT a man, and
being the CREATOR of the universe, He is omniscient, omnipotent, and
omnipresent.  He knows every hair on your head and every breath you take.
He knows your DNA, for He made it (Psalm 139).

Concerning my being a deity, I don't want the job.  I don't want to be
worshipped by any followers, only to be begged to heal their lives, souls,
or bodies, and then when I do so, to be spurned for someone else.  Why
bother with that?  Only GOD ALMIGHTY has a RIGHT to that role.

There also is no focusing of power in the prayer, for ALL power rests in
Jesus Christ, as He said in Matthew 28.

You either worship HIM, as there is only ONE GOD (Deuteronomy 6), or you
reject HIM.  WORSHIP GOD OR REJECT GOD, Joseph.  Accept God and live in
Heaven when you pass, or reject God and die in Hell in your sins.  Hebrews
9:27 says, "It is appointed unto man once to die, and after this, the
judgement."  God's elevator of judgement goes up to Heaven in Christ, or
down to Hell in your sins.  To believe any doctrine contrary to the Holy
Scriptures is to accept Hell as your unfortunate fate, for the Great
Archdeceiver Satan would have you believe that there is no Hell, or that
Hell is for Children, or that Hell is a place of numbed sensitivities, or
that Hell is eternal existence in self-indulgence.  Hell is a great chasm, a
burning fire which doesn't go out and whose worms don't die.  Hell is
separation from the Almighty Creator God, who sent His son Jesus Christ to
die for our redemption from sin and also His Holy Spirit to comfort and
guide us in Christ.

What are you, other than one who has been mercilessly deceived?  I, for one,
have had no mountains to move which God Almighty hasn't moved for me or
isn't moving already.  I don't need to move mountains, only to trust God
with my own feeble faith.  I find the reflection of my soul in the Law of
God, which acts as mirror, curb, and guide.  My soul is poor, for it is
stained in sin, yet washed with the crimson Blood of Christ!!!  I pray God
would wash your soul free from sin as well, in the waters of Holy Baptism
and bury your dead old nature in Christ's grave.

Real Christians are not called to bash or name-call others, but to cause
others to come to the Truth in Christ in a spirit of love.  Hell,
unfortunately, is very painfully real, and Heaven is as much a real blessing
to those who believe and pass from this earth.  In witchcraft/wicca, as in
Hinduism/Buddhism, you have endless regeneration in reincarnation to Nirvana
or union with the divine soul/Brahma.  In Christ, you have endless, eternal
life as ONE whole PERSON living in God, and reincarnation is not only
unnecessary, but an outright DENIAL of sacred Scripture and real, Divine
Truth.  May God help you learn of His love for you in Christ Jesus.

In Christ,

Richard C. August

"Joseph A Nagy Jr" <pagan_prince at> wrote in message
news:3D5307D0.7080907 at
> Richard C. August wrote:
> > Dear Mr. Nagy,
> >
> > Exodus 22:18 says, "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."
> >
> > Deuteronomy 18:10-14 says, "10  There shall not be found among you [any
> > that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, [or] that
> > useth divination, [or] an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a
witch ,
> > 11  Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or
> > necromancer.  12  For all that do these things [are] an abomination unto
> > LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them
> > from before thee.  13  Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God.  14
> > these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of
> > and unto diviners: but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered
> > so [to do]."
> >
> > 1 Samuel 15:23 says, "23  For rebellion [is as] the sin of  witchcraft ,
> > stubbornness [is as] iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected
> > word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from [being] king."
> >
> > 2 Chronicles 33:1-6 says, "33:1  Manasseh [was] twelve years old when he
> > began to reign, and he reigned fifty and five years in Jerusalem:  2
> > did [that which was] evil in the sight of the LORD, like unto the
> > abominations of the heathen, whom the LORD had cast out before the
> > of Israel.  3  For he built again the high places which Hezekiah his
> > had broken down, and he reared up altars for Baalim, and made groves,
> > worshipped all the host of heaven, and served them.   4  Also he built
> > altars in the house of the LORD, whereof the LORD had said, In Jerusalem
> > shall my name be for ever.  5  And he built altars for all the host of
> > heaven in the two courts of the house of the LORD.  6  And he caused his
> > children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom:
> > he observed times, and used enchantments, and used  witchcraft , and
> > with a familiar spirit, and with wizards: he wrought much evil in the
> > of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.".
> >
> > Galatians 5:16-23 says, "6  [This] I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and
> > shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.  17  For the flesh lusteth
> > the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the
> > to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.  18  But if
> > be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.  19  Now the works of
> > flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication,
> > lasciviousness,  20  Idolatry,  witchcraft , hatred, variance,
> > wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,  21  Envyings, murders, drunkenness,
> > revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have
> > told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not
> > the kingdom of God.  22  But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy,
> > longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23  Meekness, temperance:
> > against such there is no law."
> If you were a deity just starting out, and were worshiped as the one
> true deity, would you not also say, hey, these others don't really
> exist, never did. I am the one true God, worship me as such.
> >
> > God's Word, the Bible, also has this to say about idolatry in general.
> >
> > 1 Peter 4:2-3 says,  "2  That he no longer should live the rest of [his]
> > time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.  3  For
> > time past of [our] life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the
> > Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine,
> > revellings, banquetings, and abominable  idolatries".
> >
> > When we express intolerance of any other religion save Christianity, we
> > expressing the Divine Will of God according to His Word.  This same
> > which contains stern admonitions against Wiccan craft, idolatry, and
> > anti-Christian tripe, also says this:
> Then God is not a loving God, but a jealous, vengeful, petty little
> deity. I'd prefer to think of him/her/it on nicer terms. I may have
> rejected Christianity as a path, but I have not rejected it's ideals of
> compassion, truth, and love, nor have I said anyone group is right above
> the other. The only time we will know for sure is upon our death bed,
> but this being said, I also know I have lived at least 3 past lives, so
> final death is not final death for the soul, only the vessel.
> >
> > John 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and
> > Word was God.  2  The same was in the beginning with God.  3  All things
> > were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
> > In him was life; and the life was the light of men.  5  And the light
> > shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.  6  There was
> > man sent from God, whose name [was] John.  7  The same came for a
> > to bear witness of the Light, that all [men] through him might believe.
> > He was not that Light, but [was sent] to bear witness of that Light.  9
> > [That] was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the
> > world.  10  He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the
> > world knew him not.  11  He came unto his own, and his own received him
> > 12  But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the
> > of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:  13  Which were born,
> > of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of
> > 14  And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his
> > glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace
> > truth.  15  John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of
> > I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was
> > me.  16  And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
> > For the law was given by Moses, [but] grace and truth came by Jesus
> > 18  No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in
> > bosom of the Father, he hath declared [him]. "  John 1:1-18.
> >
> > Romans 8:14-19 advises, "14  For as many as are led by the Spirit of
> > they are the  sons  of God.  15  For ye have not received the spirit of
> > bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption,
> > we cry, Abba, Father.  16  The Spirit itself beareth witness with our
> > spirit, that we are the children of God:  17  And if children, then
> > heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with
> > [him], that we may be also glorified together.  18  For I reckon that
> > sufferings of this present time [are] not worthy [to be compared] with
> > glory which shall be revealed in us.  19  For the earnest expectation of
> > creature waiteth for the manifestation of the  sons  of God."
> >
> > Romans 1 says, "21  Because that, when they knew God, they glorified
> > not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their
> > and their foolish heart was darkened.  22  Professing themselves to be
> > they became fools,  23  And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God
> > an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted
> > and creeping things.  24  Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness
> > through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies
> > themselves:  25  Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped
> > served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever.
> > 26  For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their
> > women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:  27
> > likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in
> > lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly,
> > receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
> > And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God
> > them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not
> > 29  Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness,
> > covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit,
> > malignity; whisperers, 30  Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud,
> > boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,  31  Without
> > understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable,
> > unmerciful:  32  Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit
> > such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure
> > them that do them."
> >
> > Mr. Nagy, when modes of worship and means of redemption against sin are
> > clearly DIFFERENT between witchcraft and Christianity, with witchcraft
> > holding so many false gods and Christianity worshipping the only real
> > how dare you have the gall to say that the only difference between
> > Christianity and witchcraft are their trappings.
> Modes of worship are NOT so clearly different between Paganism and
> Christianity. Prayer is another form of spell crafting. The blessing of
> the alter is just a simple spell to cleanse the area of evil so that
> other spells/prayers may be cast/said without worry of being interrupted
> by those harmful things that DO exist.
> >
> > I dare you to prove, for example, that the Our Father is a form of
casting a
> > spell, when this is given by the same God who authored the same Bible as
> "Our Father, who art in heaven
> hallowed by thy name"
> You start off with a simple, loving message to your deity to grab his
> attention.
> The rest follows as an example to focus your mind at the prayer at hand
> (the focusing of power), and in turn, makes sure that when you come to
> the reason for calling upon him.
> > this text, Galatians 5:19-25, "19  Now the works of the flesh are
> > which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
> > Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred,  variance , emulations, wrath, strife,
> > seditions, heresies,  21  Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings,
> > such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in
> > past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of
> > 22  But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering,
> > gentleness, goodness, faith, 23  Meekness, temperance: against such
there is
> > no law.  24  And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with
> > affections and lusts.  25  If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in
> > Spirit."
> >
> > Can a work of the flesh be a work of God's Spirit, when God's own WORD
> God's own word was written thousands of years ago by superstitous men
> (not that mankind is any les superstitious).
> >
> > Honestly, I can't see what you see in witchcraft,
> What I see in Wicca (which if you ask any Wiccan, is not exactly the
> same was Witchcraft, although there are similiar elements, IMO) is
> self-empowerment and the Gods (and Goddesses) involvement in every day
> life, in all of nature you see the miracles being wrought, your may
> believe your God made those things, and that is fine, and you might even
> see his hand in your everyday life, and that is fine too, but I don't
> see YOUR God's hand in my life. Also, being judged by some supreme being
> who doesn't exist in my life isn't for me, although all the more power
> to ya for believing. Faith is a wonderful thing when it's used to say
> how much love and peace you have found through it, not how much
> damnation others will find because they haven't found the peace in the
> way you have.
> Real Faith can move mountains, Mr. August. When's the last time you
> moved a mountain or re-arranged the stores to show your love for
> someone? I have done the impossible. I have moved a mountain and
> rearranged the stars (figuratively, of course) in my dealings with
> friends. I have helped them find an alternative to death and dying when
> I show them how much I love who they are. For some people, that is more
> then any religion has ever done for them. My mountains and stars may not
> be real, but they are just as important.
> >when Christ was given ALL
> > authority in Heaven and Earth.  Matthew 28:18 says, "18  And Jesus came
> > spake unto them, saying, All  power  is given unto me in heaven and in
> > earth."  Why only half-step, when you could go the full round with Jesus
> > Christ, who has all power (exousia - "authority") on Heaven and Earth?
> > Satan trembles at the mere breath of the Name of Christ.  Satan is given
> > more fatal blow when a new child of God is baptized into the death and
> > resurrection of Christ.  Satan is further crushed when a beloved new
> > of God continues to die daily to sin and drown his old sin nature in the
> > waters of Baptism, that the new man might rise daily unto repentance and
> > righteousness, better able to serve God.  Can you say as much for Wiccan
> > crafts?  Can you assure yourself, or me, or anyone else that Wiccan
> > has eternal redemption of sins?  Does Wiccan craft even have a CONCEPT
> > called sin?
> No, because there is no concept of pure evil or pure good because it
> doesn't exist. It cannot exist as a balance must always be maintained.
> You would say "what about taking a life, is that not evil?" Well, I say
> why was that life taken? Were you defending yourself from harm? Or were
> you slaughtering the lamb to feed your family. In both instances you
> took a life. Both were to only help yourself, is that not selfish (and
> in so being a sin)? What about the axe murder who "found" God? Is he any
> less an axe murder? No, but he has tried to change his ways, so he is
> not pure evil, then. Obviously if he found God, he was forgiven,
> although I still doubt he would enter paradise. He needlessly took lives
> that were not his for the taking. Pure good and evil do not exist.
> >
> > Jesus Christ, who knew no sin, became sin for us, bearing all our sins
> > His Body on the Cross.  By Christ's stripes of Blood alone are we ever
> > healed or redeemed. If this is hateful, if this is intolerant, if this
is a
> > t all unloving or spiteful, then I challenge YOU to die for the
> > of your sins, or those of someone else.  Christ died for our sins so we
> > didn't have to die in our sins.
> It isn't. That shows great love and caring for his subjects. Any God
> that didn't care about his/her subjects isn't worth their wait in salt.
> >
> > If you can reliably prove that there is salvation from death, hell, and
> > devil in witchcraft, then millions of people have worshipped the wrong
> > The Holy Bible, millions of Christian worshippers, historical documents,
> > church upon church, have proven the real salvation from the world, the
> > flesh, the devil, hell, and death, in the person of Jesus Christ alone,
> You first have to believe in heaven and hell. I don't.
> >
> > May you truly learn of the REAL LOVE Christ has for you, that HE DIED
> > YOU.
> And may you learn Christs love for your fellow man, remember that the
> Jewish people were the first to believe in your one God. And remember
> too that while I do not worship your one God, I also do not reject him.
> >
> > In Christ,
> >
> >
> > Richard C. August
> >
> >
> >
> I thank you for calling upon me to think, Mr. August. This post here
> proves that there may be some redemption for us all. You not once
> condemned condemned anyone, although you tried (not in vain either,
> anything that makes us think and doesn't use name calling and bashing is
> good, as we grow and learn) to sway me to your side (and did a good job
> of it, I must say, you have given me a lot to think about) you did not
> cause me to reject my current path. Only question my faith. Once faith
> is questioned, one cannot help but reflect on what has been said. I hope
> you too, find this reflection of your soul.
> Brightest of Blessings,
> Joseph A Nagy Jr

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