k.p.collins at worldnet.att.net
Wed Aug 21 16:40:54 EST 2002
Hi, Ian. Thank You for your post. I'll comment a bit, from NDT's perspective.
The most-important thing is that the 'brain' [nervous system] is a self-organizing system.
It's literally the case that, within the physical 'limits' imposed through genetic inheritance, folks become what they do.
There's been an unfortunate over-emphasis of 'genetic-inheritance' stuff, because the most-fundamental feature of genetic stuff is that, within the general 'human' 'pattern', it 'encodes' nervous-system stuff as a robustly-generalized processor.
I've searched for, and continue to search for, any evidence of their being 'limits' to the information-processing adaptability of nervous systems, and, although there might be such, I've found none.
Within the requirements of maintaining-Life, the genetically-encoded information-processing capacities of nervous systems appear to be limitless. [I'll gladly receive challenges with respect to such, if anyone wants to bring anything up.]
But such comes-up-hard-against the more traditional view in which [most-often, in ways that obviously derive in 'profit'-seeking] folks try to stuff 'specific' stuff into this or that artificially-isolated 'component' of the limitlessly-generalized processor stuff.
Folks routinely attempt to 'do' such without evaluating their hypotheses in terms of what it'd mean, with respect to 'adaptability', if their hypotheses were 'correct'. In other words, folks do not carry through their analysis sufficiently with respect to limitlessly-generalized processor stuff.
So, anyway, it's True that any 'psychological-deficit' can be induced through deliberately, or via-happenstance, 'engineered' environmental circumstances.
It's True that such environmental stuff drives nervous systems in ways that modify their own structure.
It's True that, as such environmentally-induced structural modification procedes, the behavioral by-products of nervous system function are modifed, commensurately.
And, it's True, that practitioners who do not know the first thing about how nervous systems process-information routinely inflict augmented harm upon folks who've suffered through environmentally-induced nervous-system-modification.
All of this has been reified in AoK, all along. Because I wanted to try to find someone who could understand, and who'd give NDT a 'home', I wrote AoK in a way that embodies many perspectives, in the hope that any of these would 'click' with widely-dispersed specialized interests. One of these perspectives is exactly the stuff that's reflected in your post [quoted below]. AoK can be read, in it's entirety, as a 'manual' with respect to environmentally-induced nervous system modification.
It's been one of the 'hardest' things - folks who put 'profits' ahead of actually helping folks 'took offense' at AoK's [NDT's] Refutation of their approach to 'doing neuroscience'. Because of their reliance in 'money', these folks're 'powerful', and their 'backlash' against NDT's stuff has been commensurately-'powerful'.
But they're just Wrong, and they're just Wrong as a function of their having been Victimized through their own experiencing of environmentally-induced modifications to their own nervous systems :-]
You know - most-often the role of 'academia' is the perpetuation of Ignorance, rather than the overcoming of Ignorance.
Students are required, under penalty of 'failing-grades', to absorb the stuff that their Professors were required, under penalty of 'failing-grades', to absorb from their Professors... ad infinitum.
So, the most-common thing that occurs is the perpetuation of the same, long-familiar Errors.
And this, 'two', happens in exact accord with the gist of the stuff you've brought up in yout post.
So, when folks 'argue' against such, as is most-often the case, folks're 'just' declaring their Victimhood, because their 'arguments', themselves, derive in the structural modifications that were induced within their own nervous systems while they were experiencing within 'academic' environments in which they were forced to become this or that, under penalty of 'failing' grades.
The result is that it's a Hard problem with respect to which, to find a hearing. [If anyone's saved the stuff I've posted, I wrote about my encounters with such a while back, earlier this summer. One can, literally, See the "supersystem-configuration" [AoK, Ap5] 'switch' being-thrown, in-there, and the 'blindly'-automated 'moving away from' becoming initialized. One can literally See the "volitional diminishing-returns decision threshold" [AoK, Ap7], having been reached, and the 'choosing' to 'move away from' "rendering useless" [AoK, Ap 8] of the "biological mass" [AoK, Ap5] that was constructed during the intense 'academic' experience through which the one with whom you're interacting was forced, under penalty of 'failing' grades, to acquire "biological mass" [have his nervous system modified in a way] that perpetuates False information. It's always such an Immense-Sorrow to See such, and to be standing-there, with that which Frees folks from the Tryanny of such, in-hand, and Witness the 'moving away from' - it's always such a Pittiful-Sorrow to See folks 'retreating' into their 'cages', 'blindly' and automatically, proclaiming their 'fealty' to that which only 'ensnares' them. Seeing 'the Beast', Abstract Ignorance, in-there, wanting to Rescue them, but being 'driven-off' via this or that 'excusing' [anti-"rendering useless"] behavioral by-products of TD E/I-minimization within a nervous system that's been modified through massively-coercive experience. It's not uncommon that, on my way home from such encounters, I weep for those so Victimized.]
And the most-Sorrowful thing is that they go out, and inflict the collective-Ignorance upon those who come to them in hope of receiving 'relief' from their own Suffering.
It's an exceedingly-Viscious 'cycle' which most-often 'only' perpetuates all the Sorrowful stuff.
This is a perspective with respect to that which NDT stands against.
It also provides insight into why it is that I work in ways that, superficially, seem to be 'uncaring'.
I Care, with all my 'heart'.
It's just that the problem is Hard be-cause it requires one to 'follow curved paths', through all the Hurt-Filled stuff that folks've experienced, in order to be able to present the Gift of the understanding that can Free them from that which 'the Beast', Abstract Ignorance, has, through no 'fault' of their own, Mercilessly-Inflicted upon them.
I Care, with all my 'heart'.
I won't 'quit' of my own Volition.
I Ache for folks, because I understand, absent the understanding, the stuff I do "seems 'uncaring'".
The Key thing is the absence of understanding.
Once folks understand how nervous systems process-information, folks'll See the Love that's been in-there, all along.
Anyway, that which you've brought-up, Ian, is as Important as anything gets, so Thank You.
K. P. Collins
Ian Goddard wrote in message <3d62f359.92179446 at news.erols.com>...
> The following reviews a new book by Douglas Bremner, an Emory
> University psychiatrist who argues that many major psychiatric
> conditions are the result of environmental stressors. Modern
> psychiatry views such conditions as arising from organic brain
> disorders independent of environmental psycho-social insults.
> In accord with that view, psychiatric treatment has shifted
> since the 60s from psychotherapy to drugs and electroshock.
> Bremner's contrary view matches the argument I've made:
> that a biological basis of psychiatric conditions does not
> rule out psychosocial insults as possible causal mechanisms.
> In short, perhaps you can be "driven crazy" by the environment
> and such would manifest as distinct neurological malfunctions.
> However, such malfunctions would merely be the symptoms, not
> the cause. Therapeutic interventions that merely treat the
> symptoms would not constitute adequate genuine treatment.
>Emory University Health Sciences Center
>Emory researcher claims stress-induced changes in brain can create
>Years of research come together in a book explaining how stress
>affects the brain
>ATLANTA -- Emory University psychiatrist J. Douglas Bremner, M.D.,
>has compiled more than ten years of research, reflection, and
>observations as a clinical psychiatrist in a book that explains how
>stress-induced changes in the brain may account for some psychiatric
>disorders, including Post-traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD),
>dissociative disorders, borderline personality disorder, adjustment
>disorder, depression, and anxiety.
>The book "Does Stress Damage the Brain? Understanding Trauma-Related
>Disorders from a Neurological Perspective," outlines the theory that
>there is a biological basis for trauma-related disorders which can
>be essential in diagnosing and treating such disorders. This view of
>trauma spectrum disorders, as Bremner calls them, is a departure
>from the widely held view in psychiatry that psychiatric disorders
>are completely different from one another, and have different
>The idea of trauma spectrum disorders came out of research conducted
>by Bremner and colleagues when he was a young psychiatry resident at
>West Haven, VA Hospital and Yale University Hospital, During an
>experience in the wee hours of the morning with a Vietnam War combat
>veteran who was trapped in the middle of a post-traumatic
>"flashback," Dr. Bremner was struck by the seemingly reflexive and
>uncontrollable nature of the symptoms, which were similar to those
>of patients having seizures. Dr. Bremner wondered if the flashbacks
>represented a neurological rather than a psychological condition, as
>they were considered to be at that time.
>"When patients are having flashbacks, as my veteran was, they are
>unaware of what is going on in the present," said Dr. Bremner.
>"Patients often describe flashbacks as if a movie were playing in
>front of their eyes, complete with visual images, sounds and
>smells." Dr. Bremner theorized that the flashbacks could involve the
>same brain areas that are affected by seizures, most importantly the
>hippocampus, which is affected in 80% of epilepsy cases. Subsequent
>PET (positron emission tomography) studies with trauma victims
>showed a significant and direct link between a reduction in the
>volume of the hippocampus and PTSD.
>Bremner emphasizes in his book that all bodily functions are linked
>in one way or another to the brain. In a stressful situation, the
>brain automatically sends signals that release hormones, including
>cortisol and adrenaline. The heart pumps faster; blood pressure goes
>up; and blood flow shifts to parts of the body that need it the most
>such as the brain and muscles so we can think fast and fight or run.
>If the brain overcharges for a prolonged period of time in response
>to stressful stimuli, the body does not have a chance to recuperate
>and the results can be deadly. "If stress has effects on the brain
>and neurological function, then stress has effects on all parts of
>the body including the heart, blood vessels, the immune system, and
>the digestive system," says Bremner. "The long list of damaging
>effects can include heart disease, memory impairment, depression,
>and even increased susceptibility to stroke and cancer."
>"Knowledge is power." Dr. Bremner adds. "Our patients will benefit
>from a greater knowledge of the potential effects of stress on mind,
>body and spirit. It is essential that physicians talk to their
>patients and determine what is going on in their lives before making
>Dr. Bremner's background includes degrees in both psychiatry and
>neuroradiology, fueled by an intense fascination with the link
>between trauma and its biological effects. With the help of advanced
>PET technology, Bremner and his team of Emory researchers continue
>to peer into the brains of individuals with PTSD hoping to further
>determine the relationship between trauma and functionality, so that
>future victims can be cured. At Emory, he is director of the Center
>for Positron Emission Tomography and assistant professor of
>psychiatry and behavioral sciences. He also serves as director of
>mental health research at the Atlanta Veterans Administration
>"Understanding of the human brain is more important now than ever "
>said Bremner. "One thing I can say from my clinical experience is
>that people in our country will be sorting out their response to the
>tragic events of September 11 for many years to come. There are many
>patterns of response to that tragedy that can be compared to other
>traumatic events from prior history. However, in many respects this
>particular event was unprecedented. The constant threat of terrorist
>activity is an anomaly."
>Media Contacts: Kathi Ovnic Baker, 404/727-9371, kobaker at emory.edu
>Janet Christenbury, 404/727-8599, jmchris at emory.edu
> Out-of-Body Explanation: http://iangoddard.net/paranorm.htm
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