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jmdrake jmdrake_98 at yahoo.com
Tue Dec 10 09:58:10 EST 2002

Erik Max Francis <max at alcyone.com> wrote in message news:<3DF4E9A0.1840DB6A at alcyone.com>...
> jmdrake wrote:
> > One man's crank is another another man's genius.  ;-)  By the way,
> > I visited your "crank" sight.  While it was interesting and mildly
> > amusing what I found "depressing" was the view that believing in
> > creation automatically made someone a "crank".
> People who believe in creation don't make it into crank.net.  Scientific
> Creationists, however, definitely do.

As a creationist who is also a scientist I don't know where that puts
me.  Not that I really care.
> > While on the surface it may seem "cranky" the fact is that their
> > flyer actually works.  Now if it works by true "antigravity" or
> > by some other force is a big question.  But the plans are pretty
> > simple and the results have been reproduced many times over.
> > However someone might mislabel them "cranks" just because they
> > have the word "antigravity" in their URL.
> So are you saying "fraud" would be a better characterization?

If so then "crank.net" is fraudulent also.  After all I've yet to
see one crankshaft there.  :-)


John M. Drake

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