brain sizes: Einstein's and women's

Hope Munro Smith hopems at mail.utexas.edu
Mon Jul 15 20:25:16 EST 2002


In article <Xns924CCC4FDDD44nospamcom at 198.164.200.20>, GodEvolved
<nospam at spam.com> wrote:

(Snip)

> >> >> >> > Here is an article on a study done by Cornell and Yale 
> >> >> >> > that proves my point about the GRE not predicting success
> >> >> >> > in graduate school:
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > The Graduate Record Examination (GRE) does little to predict
> >> >> >> > who will do well in graduate school for psychology and quite
> >> >> >> > likely in other fields as well, according to a new study by
> >> >> >> > Cornell and Yale universities. 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> I won't quibble over terminology, but I'll point out that the
> >> >> >> research conducted appears to have been done for *psychology*
> >> >> >> studies, and the results are extrapolated for *other* fields. 
> >> >> >> Not exactly categorical approval of *your* point.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Ok, I think you're misunderstanding me.  My agenda is not
> >> >> > to prove the superiority of one gender over another. I'm simply
> >> >> > trying to show that the GRE is not an effective predictor of 
> >> >> > how well someone will do in graduate school.  Here is more
> >> >> > information on the matter:
> >> >> 
> >> >> But you're not arguing with John Knight based on this.  You're
> >> >> arguing based on your perception of *his* sexism, and you counter
> >> >> it with *more* sexism.  
> >> >> 
> >> >> <Snip - I'm not arguing the merits(or lack thereof) of any testing
> >> >> methodology>
> >> >>
> >> > 
> >> > Eh what?  I must be misunderstanding my own posts
> >> > because I don't understand how I was countering with
> >> > more sexism. Please quote the text you are talking
> >> > about.  I did say Knight has a sexist 
> >> 
> >> You're suggesting that the verbal scores are not included because
> >> they would interfere with his agenda, but you're forgetting that such
> >> a statement smacks of sexism in itself.
> > 
> > It wasn't intended that way.  What I was saying is that
> > his results would magically disappear because things
> > would even out.   Not because women are better.
> 
> I'm not sure what you just said here.  Could you clarify?

As I showed in another post, information from the NSF 
indicates that women and men do about the same on the
verbal and analytical sections of the GRE, with men
doing somewhat better on the quantitative portion
of the exam.  But as I have said over and over again,
the entire discussion is moot because the GRE does not
accurately predict performance in graduate school or
professional life after graduate school.



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