brain sizes: Einstein's and women's
JDay123 at BellSouth.com
Sat Jul 27 15:02:26 EST 2002
In alt.education Re: brain sizes: Einstein's and women's,
Bob LeChevalier wrote...
>>>What does being armed have to do with being Christian? Do you really think
>>>you can defeat Satan with a gun?
>>If you are "armed" it means that you are fundamentally opposed to
>>the Neo-Nazi gun control legislation ADL liberals and other liberals
>Which has nothing to do with Christianity, unless you have a Bible verse
>commanding that you own a gun.
As a matter of fact I do. Are you sitting down? The following is
from Jewish Law, from a Jewish website, concerning that very Bible
verse. But first, please don't tell me Jewish Law has nothing to do
with Christianity because this has to do with the sanctity of life
in the eyes of God. It also has much to do with your Constitution
and Christian rights under our current form of government.
>From a JPFO website FAQ sheet (which I'll send you in it's entirity
following this post)...
"From the sanctity of Life comes an imperative to safeguard Life.
Thus, it is written in the Talmud -- the 70-volume Code of Jewish
Law -in at least three places, "And the Torah says, 'If someone
comes to kill you, arise quickly and kill him.'" The Torah is the
Five Books of Moses; this injunction is rooted in Exodus, Chapter
22, Verse 1. This injunction occurs twice in the section of the
Talmud dealing with Blessings (TractateB'rachos), on pages 58A and
62B. It also is found in the section of theTalmud dealing with
Administration of Justice (Tractate Sanhedrin) page 72A. The
contexts are all different, but the message is consistent: forJews,
self-defense is an individual duty. As nothing in the Five Books of
Moses, or the Talmud, is ever repeated without a reason, that this
injunction is three times repeated suggests it is a powerful
injunction, indeed. "
Here I must interject that the verse numbers in the Jewish English
translation of Hebrew scriptures (Torah) do not match the verse
numbers of the KJV. I made this discovery myself while in a verse
by verse debate with Orthodox Jews over the events that occured at
Mt. Sinai when Moses received the 10 commandments. The reason I
said that is because Exodus 22:1 KJV says...
Exodus 22:1 If a man shall steal an ox, or a sheep, and kill it, or
sell it; he shall restore five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a
...and I'm sure the Jewish version of sanctity of life (self
defense, gun ownership) isn't tied to a property law. It's tied to a
moral law whereby a man can shoot first and ask questions later if
his life is immediatly at stake. Such is the case in verse 2 of the
Exodus 22:2 If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that
he die, there shall no blood be shed for him.
>>To me, this represents a shift away from ADL liberalism towards
>>conservative (and Constitutional) values and freedoms. Obviously,
>>Jewry must've been putting pressure on the Israeli Rabbinate for
>>such a decision to have been made public.
>Or maybe most Jews don't have any particular care WHAT the "Israeli
>Rabbinate" thinks. Certainly true of most of the Jews I know (since most
>Jews I know are not observant; i.e. they do not practice the rituals
>associated with Orthodox Jewry).
That's what I thought. You know nothing concerning Rabinics or the
>>Well, you should "know better". And so should Angilion.
>I know better than to think that "real Christians" are any less sinners than
>any other human being.
Then you're ok with guns and killing in self defense?
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