brain sizes: Einstein's and women's
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Tue Sep 3 00:19:38 EST 2002
holzman at panix.com (Dan Holzman) wrote:
>The Seventh Psalm was written "concerning Cush the Benjamite".
Oh, that's fun. Let's see how the nincompoop explains that one!
I'll add in a contribution, first quoting him:
> From G2448 (in the sense of G2455 as a country); udaean, that is,
> belonging to Jehudah: - Jew (-ess), of Juda.
>There's never any indication in any of the Holy Scripture that any
> member of the Tribe of Judah [read: a descendant of Judah] was ever
> referred to as a "jew", nor is there any indication that any
> descendant of Jehudi was ever referred to as a member of the Tribe of
> Judah. Each original reference is very clear, so it's revealing that
> Strong's has two different numbers for the same word, and provides
> the same misleading "translation" for each number:
EVERY reference to Ioudaios is to Jews, he says. Let him enjoy:
> For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power
> of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first,
> and also to the Greek.
followed by Romans 2:9-10
> But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but
> obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
> Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil,
> of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
> But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to
> the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
> For there is no respect of persons with God.
Yes, all these references are to Ioudaios. Rather than trust in King
James, I pulled out a Greek Bible. Note the opposition Jew/Gentile.
No "Israelites" in this story.
The nincompoop also has not explained Galatians. Note that he
recently claimed that the 12 apostles were Israelites. He now has to
contend with Paul explicitly saying that some of them were Ioudaios
> And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.
> Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.
> But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face,
> because he was to be blamed.
> For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the
> Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself,
> fearing them which were of the circumcision.
>> And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ("other" Jews making no sense unless he was
> Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.
> But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the
> truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou,
> being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the
> Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?
> We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles,
> Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
No Israelites in this chapter either.
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