brain sizes: Einstein's and women's
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Thu Sep 12 03:02:37 EST 2002
John Knight <jwknight at polbox.com> wrote:
>Bob LeChevalier wrote:
>>>The fact that Josephus was a jew makes every word he writes suspect.
>>>Wherever his accounts conflict with the Holy Bible, they need to be
>> Since most of what he discusses are events not discussed in the Bible,
>> this is hardly an issue. He isn't the only source we have on the
>> Roman military, just the best known and most available since Josephus
>> has been translated into English. We know the size of the Roman
>> legions that were the most sophisticated military up until their time,
>> and each was smaller than 10,000 men. Thus a supposed Israelite army
>> of 600,000 that made no mark on history OTHER than the Bible is rather
>Did you know that jewish writings "prove" that the Romans killed 6
>billion jews in one city alone?
No they don't, and I doubt that there is a single Jew alive today that
claims that they do. Even if you can find it in the Talmud, the
nature of the Talmud is not one that claims factual history. It is
recorded opinions and arguments
>Or that jews claimed that 6 million
>jews died in the First World War, long before they cooked up the second
>"holocaust" in WWII?
Again, I doubt that there is any Jew alive that claims this, although
you can always find some oddballs of any cultural background willing
to claim all sorts of nonsense - just look at you.
>When you're dealing with jews who
>believe such things who ignore all the millions of Christians dying all
>over the place
I see no evidence that they ignore millions of Christians dying. But
the difference for them is between a death in the family and multiple
deaths of strangers in a traffic accident.
>You can pretty
>well guess what it is about jews that they scored only 466 on TIMSS math.
>http://www.geocities.com/fathersfiasco/ This is a score someone could get
>without even adding two plus two [read: even though it might be second
>nature to non-"liberals", jews can't even add and subtract].
You haven't a clue what TIMSS scores mean. A 466 on the advanced math
test requires that the person know a significant amount of advanced
math, significantly more than you seem to know.
>Now you want us to rely on some jew 2,000 years ago to add up the number
>of Israelites or Romans?
We rely on some Jew 2000 years ago to have died on the cross and saved
>The census that David did which showed that he had 1.3 million
>able-bodied men was completed 130 generations ago, which is almost 30
>generations before Josephus was born. A lot can happen in 30
Yes, it can. Glad you've admitted it.
>The account in the Holy Bible is abbreviated, but there
>are enough details to believe they're accurate.
They contradict themselves and physical possibility, unless you know
of large numbers of families that have 30 sons, go from 30 people to
600,000 in 4 generations. David's 1.3 million is only one generation
after Saul got a much smaller number:
1 Sam 11:8
 And when he numbered them in Bezek, the children of Israel were
three hundred thousand, and the men of Judah thirty thousand.
2 Sam 24:9
 And Joab gave up the sum of the number of the people unto the
king: and there were in Israel eight hundred thousand valiant men that
drew the sword; and the men of Judah were five hundred thousand men.
The men of Judah multiplied by 17 in just one generation, and the rest
of Israel multiplied by almost 3, all this despite plenty of wars.
Clearly the numbers are flawed. But more critically, in numbers when
the number of eldest sons were only 273 while the total number of sons
of Levi were 22,000, we have self-contradiction.
>How many generations was the World Trade Center around? One? How many
>generations will it be before there's no trace of it around? Still one.
>How many more generations will it be remembered? Even with all the
>jewish blather in the jewsmedia, in less than three generations, it'll
>be more forgotten than the "hydrogen bomb dropped on Korea" now being
>taught to American students.
OK, I'll bite. Where is evidence that American students are taught
that a hydrogen bomb was dropped on Korea?
We remember the Titanic which was around only a few days, for than 3
generations, and only half as many died.
>It's impossible that a permanent archeological record of 1.3 million
>Israelite soldiers could last 130 generations. That's even longer than
>the Parthenon has been around.
Not much longer. The pyramids have been around longer than that, and
King Tut's mummy predates those mystical 1.3 million. We can tell how
large the ancient cities of note were, and what their populations
were. Nineveh and Babylon were in the Bible reported to be a small
fraction of 1.3 million
> And should not I spare Nineveh, that great city, wherein are more
> than sixscore thousand persons that cannot discern between their
> right hand and their left hand; and also much cattle?
We have plenty of archeological remains of Nineveh though it is only
1/10 the size of David's supposed army.
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