brain sizes: Einstein's and women's

zaphod beeblebrox space at
Thu Sep 12 21:06:21 EST 2002

Moses' first wife, Zipporah, was a Kenite (a Semitic people). Moses sent her
back to her father (Jethro/Reuel) during the forty-year wandering period.
His second wife was an Ethiopian woman, black as the ace of spades, I
reckon. I imagine he loved her because she was sweet-spirited (unlike
Zipporah), and gentle, and kind, and not ashamed to embrace the Israelite
religion, including the bloody circumcision. She was probably attractive
and, God knows, a good dancer.

Ruth was not a "resident alien" of Moab--she was a Moabitess, as was her
sister-in-law. Judah had his children by two Canaanite women--yes, the
Canaanites that God would later condemn for their wickedness. The
descendents of Judah are the "Jews," very much Israelites and Hebrews in
every respect.

Jesus and all the apostles were Israelites. Paul was not technically a Jew
(tribe of Benjamin), but by his day "Israelite" was synonymous with "Jew"
because from the resettlement following the Babylonian Captivity period, the
country was known as "Judah" and "Judea." All of the residents who claimed
Hebrew descent (with or without genealogical records) were known as Jews.
Even the Hebrews scattered abroad ("diaspora") were known by this name
(compare Esther).

The "purity" of the Israelites has not been a primary concern of God at ANY
time in the history of the Bible. Certainly not from Adam to Jacob, since
Jacob (Israel) was the first "Israelite." Ezekiel 16 makes it clear that
even God was aware that they were a "miscegenated" or mixed breed from the
beginning. Jacob married two Syrians (Rachel and Leah), who were Abraham's
"people." Judah married a Canaanite woman to father his line, and
subsequently had twins by his Canaanitish daughter-in-law. Boaz, Solomon,
and Rehoboam--as has been noted by others in this incredibly drawn-out and
convoluted argument--all fathered their main lines by non-Israelite women.

The lineage of Jesus is quite human and impure on the human side. And He's
not ashamed to admit it. The call is to all y'all and all y'all's
chilluns--whosoever will, bond or free, Jew or Gentile, high-born or
low-born, red and yellow, black and white--come on down, and drink freely of
the water of life.

And drop this childish argument. Please.


"Bob LeChevalier" <lojbab at> wrote in message
news:2d82oug0r17duhgk8ogv4n5o3pg9qbvf28 at
| "zaphod beeblebrox" <space at> wrote:
| >I invite you all to read Numbers 12. It's a short chapter. You'll enjoy
| Very good.  The nincompoop can stop at the end of verse 1
| >And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian
| > woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.
| Lest their be any doubt of the translation,
| H3571 (translated as Ethiopian) is
| >Kuwshiyth None
| >Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech
| >koo-sheeth'      Adjective Feminine
| >
| > Definition
| >a Cushite woman, Moses' wife so-called by Miriam and Aaron
| Which is the feminine form of Cushi
| H3569
| >yXwk patronymically from (03568)
| >Transliterated Word TDNT Entry
| >Kuwshiy TWOT - 969a
| >Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech
| >koo-shee'      Adjective
| >
| > Definition
| >Cushi or Ethiopian = see Cushan "their blackness"
| >one of the descendants of Cush the grandson of Noah through Ham and a
member of that nation or people
| >one of Joab's couriers
| >(TWOT) Ethiopian
| So not only did Moses marry the daughter of a Kenite, he married a
| Cushith (female Cushi) (and as the chapter continues, God punished
| Miriam rather severely merely for criticizing Moses for this action).
| Clearly, God did not intend by Deuteronomy to forbid that which Moses
| had done.  It seems most unlikely that Moses, the lawgiver, would give
| a law against what he himself had done, and which God had punished
| Miriam for criticizing.  There thus can be no doubt that Deuteronomy
| 23:2 is not referring to the children of Moses as bastards, nor did
| Moses reject all of other races from joining the congregation of the
| Lord, for in Exodus 18, all of the elders of Israel ate with his
| father-in-law, the Kenite and Midianite, who was either Ethiopian or
| married to an Ethiopian, since his daughter was a Cushith, and did so
| "before God".
| >[1] When Jethro, the priest of Midian, Moses' father in law, heard of all
that God had done for Moses, and for Israel his people, and that the LORD
had brought Israel out of Egypt;
| >[2] Then Jethro, Moses' father in law, took Zipporah, Moses' wife, after
he had sent her back,
| >[3] And her two sons; of which the name of the one was Gershom; for he
said, I have been an alien in a strange land:
| >[4] And the name of the other was Eliezer; for the God of my father, said
he, was mine help, and delivered me from the sword of Pharaoh:
| >[5] And Jethro, Moses' father in law, came with his sons and his wife
unto Moses into the wilderness, where he encamped at the mount of God:
| >[6] And he said unto Moses, I thy father in law Jethro am come unto thee,
and thy wife, and her two sons with her.
| >[7] And Moses went out to meet his father in law, and did obeisance, and
kissed him; and they asked each other of their welfare; and they came into
the tent.
| >[8] And Moses told his father in law all that the LORD had done unto
Pharaoh and to the Egyptians for Israel's sake, and all the travail that had
come upon them by the way, and how the LORD delivered them.
| >[9] And Jethro rejoiced for all the goodness which the LORD had done to
Israel, whom he had delivered out of the hand of the Egyptians.
| >[10] And Jethro said, Blessed be the LORD, who hath delivered you out of
the hand of the Egyptians, and out of the hand of Pharaoh, who hath
delivered the people from under the hand of the Egyptians.
| >[11] Now I know that the LORD is greater than all gods: for in the thing
wherein they dealt proudly he was above them.
| >[12] And Jethro, Moses' father in law, took a burnt offering and
sacrifices for God: and Aaron came, and all the elders of Israel, to eat
bread with Moses' father in law before God.
| Now the question remaining is whether and how long it will be before
| the nincompoop turns white with leprosy.  Perhaps he should fall on
| his knees and beg God for forgiveness of the lies that he has been
| spreading at the behest of the Prince of Lies.
| lojbab

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