brain sizes: Einstein's and women's

Bob LeChevalier lojbab at lojban.org
Sat Sep 14 13:49:16 EST 2002


"John Knight" <jwknight at polbox.com> wrote:
>"Bob LeChevalier" <lojbab at lojban.org> wrote in message
>news:2d95oucd1j10bfvbel4p9tsn2k6jif41nt at 4ax.com...
>> >> But then later, He DID extend His commission for the disciples to go
>> >> to ALL nations.
>> >
>> >WHERE?
>>
>> Mark 13:
>> >5] And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive
>you:
>>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >[6] For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall
>deceive many.
>> >[7] And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not
>troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet.
>> >[8] For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:
>and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines
>and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows.
>> >[9] But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to
>councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought
>before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.
>> >[10] And the gospel must first be published among all nations.
>>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>> Luke 24:
>> >[36] And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them,
>and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
>> >[37] But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had
>seen a spirit.
>> >[38] And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts
>arise in your hearts?
>> >[39] Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and
>see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
>> >[40] And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
>> >[41] And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto
>them, Have ye here any meat?
>> >[42] And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
>> >[43] And he took it, and did eat before them.
>> >[44] And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you,
>while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were
>written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms,
>concerning me.
>> >[45] Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the
>scriptures,
>> >[46] And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved
>>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> > Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
>> >[47] And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in
>>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
>>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >[48] And ye are witnesses of these things.
>>
>> >Are you telling us that Jesus LIED, and then corrected that LIE?
>>
>> No. Are you telling us that Jesus did not say those things which Mark
>> and Luke quote Him as saying?  Are you accusing the Bible of LYING?
>>
>> It is quite simple.  While Christ was still alive, they were to preach
>> repentance unto the people of Israel (i.e. the Jews).  After his
>> resurrection, per verse 46 in Luke above, it was THEN appropriate to
>> preach to ALL nations.

>It's the day you proclaimed that Jesus Christ was a LIAR, and proved the
>idiocy of your decrepit jewish and "liberal" "moral code".

I did no such thing.

>There isn't a single word in the Holy Bible that even hints that Christ's
>Twelve Disciples, His followers, Christians, or other Israelites, were ever
>given permission to disobey His commandments.

Which commandments were these?

>When it was written: "These
>twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of
>the Gentiles, and into any city of the  Samaritans enter ye not: But go
>rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And  as ye go, preach,
>saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand", Christ told an indelible TRUTH
>that can never, ever change.

Nonsense, since in fact at a later time he told them differently.  Do
you presume to tell God that He cannot change His orders as
circumstances change.

>His Disciples didn't have permission, much less authority, to change his
>Commandments, nor Israelite law, nor the Holy Bible, ever.

But they did have His later commandments to do something different,
because once Christ had fulfilled the prophecies, the situations WAS
different and there was now a reason to go to other nations.

>At this point in time, the Israelites were scattered amongst ALL NATIONS.
>Christ told His Twelve Disciples to go ONLY to Israelites who had been
>scattered to ALL NATIONS.

You do realize that "Israelites" is the name of a "nation".  There
weren't countries in the sense that we use the word "country" today.
A "nation" was a people with common customs and heritage.  Thus there
is no meaning to the concept that there can be "Israelites scattered
amongst all nations" - if they were scattered, then they were no
longer Israelites.

>Had Christ not done so, He would have been in
>direct violation of Israelite law Himself.

No.

>Why would He do that?  He WOULDN'T.
>
>"James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes
>which are scattered abroad, greeting." James 1:1
>
>Was James writing to "ALL NATIONS".  YES.

No.  he was writing to the 12 tribes scattered abroad.  James
considered his mission to be to the descendants of Jacob, leaving to
other disciples to work with other nations.

>When Christ said: "repentance and remission of sins should be preached in
>his name among all nations", He didn't give them permission to violate God's
>Law

Correct.

>or trash the entire history of the Israelites,

He said nothing about "trashing" or "not trashing" the "entire history
of the Israelites"

>or wreck the Twelve Tribes of Israel

He said nothing about "wrecking" or "not wrecking" the Twelve Tribes
of Israel, whatever "wrecking" a tribe would mean.

>--He gave them ONLY a command to uphold GOD's LAW as it was
>written for millennia.

I though you said that he gave a different "commands":
>"These
>twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of
>the Gentiles, and into any city of the  Samaritans enter ye not: But go
>rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And  as ye go, preach,
>saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand",

And of course I reported still later "commands".

>The LAST thing in the world Christ would have done is to give his Twelve
>Disciples instructions to preach to JEWS, much less accept them into the
>congregation of the LORD.

Only a nincompoop like you could leap to such a silly conclusion.

lojbab



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