brain sizes: Einstein's and women's

John Knight jwknight at polbox.com
Sun Sep 15 00:35:18 EST 2002


"Bob LeChevalier" <lojbab at lojban.org> wrote in message
news:i107ou83lvgq9l1os9khi0tleui85p4bi5 at 4ax.com...
> "John Knight" <jwknight at polbox.com> wrote:
> >"Bob LeChevalier" <lojbab at lojban.org> wrote in message
> >news:2d95oucd1j10bfvbel4p9tsn2k6jif41nt at 4ax.com...
> >> >> But then later, He DID extend His commission for the disciples to go
> >> >> to ALL nations.
> >> >
> >> >WHERE?
> >>
> >> Mark 13:
> >> >5] And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man
deceive
> >you:
> >>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> >[6] For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall
> >deceive many.
> >> >[7] And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not
> >troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet.
> >> >[8] For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:
> >and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be
famines
> >and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows.
> >> >[9] But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to
> >councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be
brought
> >before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.
> >> >[10] And the gospel must first be published among all nations.
> >>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >>
> >> Luke 24:
> >> >[36] And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them,
> >and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
> >> >[37] But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they
had
> >seen a spirit.
> >> >[38] And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts
> >arise in your hearts?
> >> >[39] Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and
> >see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
> >> >[40] And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his
feet.
> >> >[41] And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said
unto
> >them, Have ye here any meat?
> >> >[42] And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
> >> >[43] And he took it, and did eat before them.
> >> >[44] And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto
you,
> >while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were
> >written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms,
> >concerning me.
> >> >[45] Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand
the
> >scriptures,
> >> >[46] And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved
> >>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> > Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
> >> >[47] And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in
> >>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> >his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
> >>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> >[48] And ye are witnesses of these things.
> >>
> >> >Are you telling us that Jesus LIED, and then corrected that LIE?
> >>
> >> No. Are you telling us that Jesus did not say those things which Mark
> >> and Luke quote Him as saying?  Are you accusing the Bible of LYING?
> >>
> >> It is quite simple.  While Christ was still alive, they were to preach
> >> repentance unto the people of Israel (i.e. the Jews).  After his
> >> resurrection, per verse 46 in Luke above, it was THEN appropriate to
> >> preach to ALL nations.
>
> >It's the day you proclaimed that Jesus Christ was a LIAR, and proved the
> >idiocy of your decrepit jewish and "liberal" "moral code".
>
> I did no such thing.
>

You're continuing to do such things.

> >There isn't a single word in the Holy Bible that even hints that Christ's
> >Twelve Disciples, His followers, Christians, or other Israelites, were
ever
> >given permission to disobey His commandments.
>
> Which commandments were these?
>

Every word Christ spoke to His Twelve Disciples was a commandment.

> >When it was written: "These
> >twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way
of
> >the Gentiles, and into any city of the  Samaritans enter ye not: But go
> >rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And  as ye go, preach,
> >saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand", Christ told an indelible TRUTH
> >that can never, ever change.
>
> Nonsense, since in fact at a later time he told them differently.  Do
> you presume to tell God that He cannot change His orders as
> circumstances change.

You're now claiming that God made a mistake!  If any "circumstances
changed", God would have known long before they changed and accounted for
it.

Neither God nor Christ made any mistakes, and they didn't need to change any
laws, for any reason.

>
> >His Disciples didn't have permission, much less authority, to change his
> >Commandments, nor Israelite law, nor the Holy Bible, ever.
>
> But they did have His later commandments to do something different,
> because once Christ had fulfilled the prophecies, the situations WAS
> different and there was now a reason to go to other nations.
>

God made no mistakes.  Christ repeated numerous times that He didn't come to
change the law so that BONEHEADS like you might eventually get the picture:
"Does this mean that we do away with the law by this faith? No, not at all;
instead we uphold the law", Romans 3:31.  "And it is easier for heaven and
earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail", Luke 16:17.  "Do not
think that I came to annul the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to annul,
but to [fully uphold it]", Matthew 5:17.

Christ didn't admit that He made a mistake or change His mind when He said:
"And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name
among all nations".  ALL He did was instruct His Disciples to go to the
Israelites "scattered abroad", and ONLY the Israelites [read: "Then opened
he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures"] to tell
them the TRUTH about Christ, His genealogy [read: His "father" or ancestry],
and the reason the jews crucified Him.

> >At this point in time, the Israelites were scattered amongst ALL NATIONS.
> >Christ told His Twelve Disciples to go ONLY to Israelites who had been
> >scattered to ALL NATIONS.
>
> You do realize that "Israelites" is the name of a "nation".  There
> weren't countries in the sense that we use the word "country" today.
> A "nation" was a people with common customs and heritage.  Thus there
> is no meaning to the concept that there can be "Israelites scattered
> amongst all nations" - if they were scattered, then they were no
> longer Israelites.

No.  The word "tribes" in James 1:1  "James,2385 a servant1401 of God2316
and2532 of the Lord2962 Jesus2424 Christ,5547 to the3588 twelve1427
tribes5443 which3588 are scattered abroad,1722, 1290 greeting.5463" is
translated from the Greek word "phule" which means RACE, not nation.

G5443
?????
phule?
foo-lay'
>From G5453 (compare G5444); an offshoot, that is, race or clan: - kindred,
tribe.

This would be just like saying that there are no longer any niggers in the
US because they're all scattered all over the place, or there are no longer
any jews in the world because they're scattered all over the world, or that
next year when all the jews are in Madagascar that there are no longer any
jews just because we no longer hear their amoral anti-Christian message
every second of the day, or that there are no longer any Hispanics because
there are more in Mexico than in Spain.



>
> >Had Christ not done so, He would have been in
> >direct violation of Israelite law Himself.
>
> No.
>
> >Why would He do that?  He WOULDN'T.
> >
> >"James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve
tribes
> >which are scattered abroad, greeting." James 1:1
> >
> >Was James writing to "ALL NATIONS".  YES.
>
> No.  he was writing to the 12 tribes scattered abroad.  James
> considered his mission to be to the descendants of Jacob, leaving to
> other disciples to work with other nations.

Christ commanded him and ALL of His Twelve Disciples, not just one of them,
to: "Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the
Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of
Israel. And  as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand".

This meant ALL of them, and it meant FOREVER, and it meant He didn't make a
mistake, and it meant that you can't change His Word.

>
> >When Christ said: "repentance and remission of sins should be preached in
> >his name among all nations", He didn't give them permission to violate
God's
> >Law
>
> Correct.
>
> >or trash the entire history of the Israelites,
>
> He said nothing about "trashing" or "not trashing" the "entire history
> of the Israelites"

He didn't have to.  It was understood.  The Old Testament is just a part of
what His Twelve Disciples understood about the history of the Israelite
Race.

>
> >or wreck the Twelve Tribes of Israel
>
> He said nothing about "wrecking" or "not wrecking" the Twelve Tribes
> of Israel, whatever "wrecking" a tribe would mean.
>

Miscegenating with niggers would be one example.  Letting jews into the
congregation of the LORD would be a better example.  Letting them stay in
this Christian nation would be the classic mistake.

> >--He gave them ONLY a command to uphold GOD's LAW as it was
> >written for millennia.
>
> I though you said that he gave a different "commands":
> >"These
> >twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way
of
> >the Gentiles, and into any city of the  Samaritans enter ye not: But go
> >rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And  as ye go, preach,
> >saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand",
>
> And of course I reported still later "commands".
>

This isn't "new".  Kicking out the niggers, jews, other riff-raff, along
with their niglet mamzers, was a favorite Israelite past-time, for
millennia.  Putting away "foreign wives", intentionally placing Hittite
officers in a deadly place on the battlefield and impregnating their wives,
destroying their enemies' sheep, children, wives, cats, mice, and temples,
was a bit more than just a past-time.

Christ told YOU directly "Do not think that I came to annul the Law or the
Prophets; I did not come to annul, but to [fully uphold it]", yet here you
are, doing just that.

> >The LAST thing in the world Christ would have done is to give his Twelve
> >Disciples instructions to preach to JEWS, much less accept them into the
> >congregation of the LORD.
>
> Only a nincompoop like you could leap to such a silly conclusion.
>
> lojbab

Don't bet your life on it.  You've already had a bad enough week.

John Knight






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