brain sizes: Einstein's and women's
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Sun Sep 15 02:21:41 EST 2002
"John Knight" <jwknight at polbox.com> wrote:
>> >It's the day you proclaimed that Jesus Christ was a LIAR, and proved the
>> >idiocy of your decrepit jewish and "liberal" "moral code".
>> I did no such thing.
>You're continuing to do such things.
>> >There isn't a single word in the Holy Bible that even hints that Christ's
>> >Twelve Disciples, His followers, Christians, or other Israelites, were ever
>> >given permission to disobey His commandments.
>> Which commandments were these?
>Every word Christ spoke to His Twelve Disciples was a commandment.
Then Christ changed His commandments over time.
>> >When it was written: "These
>> >twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of
>> >the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go
>> >rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And as ye go, preach,
>> >saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand", Christ told an indelible TRUTH
>> >that can never, ever change.
>> Nonsense, since in fact at a later time he told them differently. Do
>> you presume to tell God that He cannot change His orders as
>> circumstances change.
>You're now claiming that God made a mistake!
No. God undoubtedly knew exactly what He was doing.
God commanded Abraham to sacrifice Isaac. He then commanded Abraham
not to do so. God did not make a mistake.
>Gen 22:2, 11-12, 15-16
> And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou
> lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for
> a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.
> And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and
> said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I.
> And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any
> thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou
> hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me.
> And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time,
> And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because
> thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only
>If any "circumstances
>changed", God would have known long before they changed and accounted for
Then God knew in advance what Abraham would do and accounted for it.
But He still commanded the sacrifice of Isaac, and then commanded NOT
>Neither God nor Christ made any mistakes, and they didn't need to change any
>laws, for any reason.
But they did, whether they needed to or not. (And who are YOU to say
what God or Christ needs to do?)
>> >His Disciples didn't have permission, much less authority, to change his
>> >Commandments, nor Israelite law, nor the Holy Bible, ever.
>> But they did have His later commandments to do something different,
>> because once Christ had fulfilled the prophecies, the situations WAS
>> different and there was now a reason to go to other nations.
>God made no mistakes.
>Christ repeated numerous times that He didn't come to
>change the law so that BONEHEADS like you might eventually get the picture:
>"Does this mean that we do away with the law by this faith? No, not at all;
>instead we uphold the law", Romans 3:31. "And it is easier for heaven and
>earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail", Luke 16:17. "Do not
>think that I came to annul the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to annul,
>but to [fully uphold it]", Matthew 5:17.
>Christ didn't admit that He made a mistake or change His mind when He said:
>"And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name
>among all nations".
That is because it was not a mistake or a change of mind. It was a
change of circumstance.
ALL He did was instruct His Disciples to go to the
>Israelites "scattered abroad", and ONLY the Israelites [read: "Then opened
>he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures"] to tell
>them the TRUTH about Christ, His genealogy [read: His "father" or ancestry],
>and the reason the jews crucified Him.
Bullshit. You speak LIES fed to you by your Father the Prince of
>This would be just like saying that there are no longer any niggers in the
>US because they're all scattered all over the place, or there are no longer
>any jews in the world because they're scattered all over the world,
Modern definitions of "race" have nothing to do with Hebrew
definitions of "nations"
>> >Was James writing to "ALL NATIONS". YES.
>> No. he was writing to the 12 tribes scattered abroad. James
>> considered his mission to be to the descendants of Jacob, leaving to
>> other disciples to work with other nations.
>Christ commanded him and ALL of His Twelve Disciples, not just one of them,
>to: "Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the
>Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of
>Israel. And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand".
But since the disciples did not stay glued together, the various
disciples went to different nations and preached to different people.
Under you interpretation they would have all needed to join themselves
at the hip and ALL of them go EVERYWHERE.
This of course is nonsense.
>> >or trash the entire history of the Israelites,
>> He said nothing about "trashing" or "not trashing" the "entire history
>> of the Israelites"
>He didn't have to. It was understood.
Only in your imagination.
I choose to believe what the Holy Bible states and not the words of a
nincompoop speaking the LIES of his father the Prince of Lies.
>The Old Testament is just a part of
>what His Twelve Disciples understood about the history of the Israelite
Where is the rest of what they understood recorded?
>This isn't "new". Kicking out the niggers, jews, other riff-raff, along
>with their niglet mamzers, was a favorite Israelite past-time, for
>millennia. Putting away "foreign wives", intentionally placing Hittite
>officers in a deadly place on the battlefield and impregnating their wives,
>destroying their enemies' sheep, children, wives, cats, mice, and temples,
>was a bit more than just a past-time.
>Christ told YOU directly "Do not think that I came to annul the Law or the
>Prophets; I did not come to annul, but to [fully uphold it]
I do not accept your parenthetical misstatements of the Bible. They
are LIES fed to you by the Prince of Lies.
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