brain sizes: Einstein's and women's
jwknight at polbox.com
Sun Sep 15 23:56:21 EST 2002
"Bob LeChevalier" <lojbab at lojban.org> wrote in message
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> "John Knight" <jwknight at polbox.com> wrote:
> >> >It's the day you proclaimed that Jesus Christ was a LIAR, and proved
> >> >idiocy of your decrepit jewish and "liberal" "moral code".
> >> I did no such thing.
> >You're continuing to do such things.
> >> >There isn't a single word in the Holy Bible that even hints that
> >> >Twelve Disciples, His followers, Christians, or other Israelites, were
> >> >given permission to disobey His commandments.
> >> Which commandments were these?
> >Every word Christ spoke to His Twelve Disciples was a commandment.
> Then Christ changed His commandments over time.
No, He did NOT.
The only way you get there is to belive jews who LIE.
Christ did not LIE, did not make mistakes, and did not change God's nor
> >> >When it was written: "These
> >> >twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the
> >> >the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But
> >> >rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And as ye go,
> >> >saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand", Christ told an indelible
> >> >that can never, ever change.
> >> Nonsense, since in fact at a later time he told them differently. Do
> >> you presume to tell God that He cannot change His orders as
> >> circumstances change.
> >You're now claiming that God made a mistake!
> No. God undoubtedly knew exactly what He was doing.
> God commanded Abraham to sacrifice Isaac. He then commanded Abraham
> not to do so. God did not make a mistake.
You're right. It wasn't even close to a "mistake". It was a test.
That's a WHOLE lot different than claiming that Christ "hanged His mind".
> >Gen 22:2, 11-12, 15-16
> > And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou
> > lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for
> > a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.
> > And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and
> > said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I.
> > And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any
> > thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou
> > hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me.
> > And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the
> > And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because
> > thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only
> > son:
> >If any "circumstances
> >changed", God would have known long before they changed and accounted for
> Then God knew in advance what Abraham would do and accounted for it.
> But He still commanded the sacrifice of Isaac, and then commanded NOT
> the sacrifice.
You can't make an anology between God's *test* and your LIE that Christ made
> >Neither God nor Christ made any mistakes, and they didn't need to change
> >laws, for any reason.
> But they did, whether they needed to or not. (And who are YOU to say
> what God or Christ needs to do?)
It's the Holy Bible that says this. It's YOU who are denying Christ's
> >"These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go
> >not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans
> >ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And as
> >go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 10:5-9
When you claimed:
> But then later, He DID extend His commission for the disciples to go
> to ALL nations.
You want to believe that Christ was a fool who didn't know what He was
talking about and had to keep changing His mind, *and* God's Law.
He NEVER did that, and your insistence that He did is a big fat jewish LIE.
> >> >His Disciples didn't have permission, much less authority, to change
> >> >Commandments, nor Israelite law, nor the Holy Bible, ever.
> >> But they did have His later commandments to do something different,
> >> because once Christ had fulfilled the prophecies, the situations WAS
> >> different and there was now a reason to go to other nations.
> >God made no mistakes.
AND, correct, that Christ made no mistakes, so He didn't have to "extend His
commission for the disciples to go to ALL nations".
> >Christ repeated numerous times that He didn't come to
> >change the law so that BONEHEADS like you might eventually get the
> >"Does this mean that we do away with the law by this faith? No, not at
> >instead we uphold the law", Romans 3:31. "And it is easier for heaven
> >earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail", Luke 16:17. "Do not
> >think that I came to annul the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to
> >but to [fully uphold it]", Matthew 5:17.
Of course, "OK".
> >Christ didn't admit that He made a mistake or change His mind when He
> >"And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name
> >among all nations".
> That is because it was not a mistake or a change of mind. It was a
> change of circumstance.
> ALL He did was instruct His Disciples to go to the
> >Israelites "scattered abroad", and ONLY the Israelites [read: "Then
> >he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures"] to
> >them the TRUTH about Christ, His genealogy [read: His "father" or
> >and the reason the jews crucified Him.
> Bullshit. You speak LIES fed to you by your Father the Prince of
Christ didn't tell anybody, particularly not His Twelve Disciples, to cater
to jews nor Hittites nor Moabs nor Edomites nor Canaanites nor Cushites nor
any OTHER race which had been condemned by the Israelites throught the
millennia--He told them multiple times in multiple ways: "But go rather to
the lost sheep of the house of Israel".
That's not "bullshit". That's not "LIES fed to you by your Father the
Prince of Lies". But it IS blasphemy for you to proclaim that the Man who
spoke those words was my "Father the Prince of Lies".
> >This would be just like saying that there are no longer any niggers in
> >US because they're all scattered all over the place, or there are no
> >any jews in the world because they're scattered all over the world,
> Modern definitions of "race" have nothing to do with Hebrew
> definitions of "nations"
The definition of "race" hasn't changed one iota since the beginning of
Time. The Holy Bible describes the genealogies of multiple races in far
more detail than you "liberals" could ever hope to understand. The Holy
Bible makes it abundantly clear that Israelites knew more and understood
more about race than most people on the planet today.
Whether or not you "liberals" agree or understand or are capable of knowing,
the word "race" means exactly the same thing this SECOND that it meant when
Christ wrote "But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel" and
when God told Moses "Thou shalt not commit adultery" and when it was written
in Deuteronomy "A [mamzer] shall not enter into the congregation of the
LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation
of the LORD".
> >> >Was James writing to "ALL NATIONS". YES.
> >> No. he was writing to the 12 tribes scattered abroad. James
> >> considered his mission to be to the descendants of Jacob, leaving to
> >> other disciples to work with other nations.
> >Christ commanded him and ALL of His Twelve Disciples, not just one of
> >to: "Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the
> >Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of
> >Israel. And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand".
> But since the disciples did not stay glued together, the various
> disciples went to different nations and preached to different people.
> Under you interpretation they would have all needed to join themselves
> at the hip and ALL of them go EVERYWHERE.
> This of course is nonsense.
They were ALL there when Christ said "But go rather to the lost sheep of the
house of Israel", they all AGREED, they HEARD what He said, and nothing you
can say now will change that FACT.
Christ DID NOT make a mistake. No Disciple misunderstood what He said and
meant. Nobody agreed that just James would adhere to this commandment, and
the other 11 would just do as they please, as you "suggest".
> >> >or trash the entire history of the Israelites,
> >> He said nothing about "trashing" or "not trashing" the "entire history
> >> of the Israelites"
> >He didn't have to. It was understood.
> Only in your imagination.
> I choose to believe what the Holy Bible states and not the words of a
> nincompoop speaking the LIES of his father the Prince of Lies.
Yes, of course. This is what the Talmud TELLS you to do. You jews and
"liberals" really DO believe that Christ was "the Prince of Lies". You
would rather call Christ a LIAR than LISTEN to His Words: "But go rather to
the lost sheep of the house of Israel". You'll do ANYTHING to deny that
Christ was CORRECT, that His Words were 100% consistent with the entire Holy
Bible, that He never made a mistake, and that He didn't have to issue
> >The Old Testament is just a part of
> >what His Twelve Disciples understood about the history of the Israelite
> Where is the rest of what they understood recorded?
You might look in the Apocryphia, but if you can't understand "But go rather
to the lost sheep of the house of Israel", then it'll be a complete waste of
> >This isn't "new". Kicking out the niggers, jews, other riff-raff, along
> >with their niglet mamzers, was a favorite Israelite past-time, for
> >millennia. Putting away "foreign wives", intentionally placing Hittite
> >officers in a deadly place on the battlefield and impregnating their
> >destroying their enemies' sheep, children, wives, cats, mice, and
> >was a bit more than just a past-time.
> >Christ told YOU directly "Do not think that I came to annul the Law or
> >Prophets; I did not come to annul, but to [fully uphold it]
> I do not accept your parenthetical misstatements of the Bible. They
> are LIES fed to you by the Prince of Lies.
It can't get much clearer than "But go rather to the lost sheep of the house
of Israel", can it?
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