brain sizes: Einstein's and women's
jwknight at polbox.com
Wed Sep 18 19:08:51 EST 2002
"John Knight" <johnknight at usa.com> wrote in message
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> Bob LeChevalier <lojbab at lojban.org> wrote in message
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> > "John Knight" <jwknight at polbox.com> wrote:
> > >"Bob LeChevalier" <lojbab at lojban.org> wrote in message
> > >news:tludouot89n3qn1g5f62iq797qodgdfifk at 4ax.com...
> > >> >The Greek word "ethnos" is translated as follows by Strong's:
> > >> >
> > >> >G1484
> > >> >???????
> > >> >ethnos
> > >> >eth'-nos
> > >> >Probably from G1486; a race (as of the same habit), that is, a
> > >> >specifically a foreign (non-Jewish) one (usually by implication
> > >> >Gentile, heathen, nation, people.
> > >> >
> > >> >So it can be both a "nation" and a "people".
> > >>
> > >> We know precisely what the word ethnos means, nincompoop. It is used
> > >> directly as an English word, both as itself and in its derivations:
> > >> ethnologist and ethnic (group). An "ethnos" is an "ethnic group",
> > >> which means a group of people sharing a culture and heritage.
> > >"Ethnos" is a Greek word, not an English word. As this translation
> > >it means "race".
> > It means "a race (as of the same habit)", thereby pointing out WHICH
> > definition of "race" applies: the one pertaining to a people with
> > common habits or customs. It does NOT mean "genetic race", and ethnos
> > has NOTHING to do with genetics. That, as you noted, is "genos"
> The standard definitions of the word "ethnos" INCLUDE all of these
> definitions of race, plus "people", "nation", "gentile", and
> "heathen". These usages are inclusive, not exclusive.
Result of search for "ethnos":
1484 ethnos eth'-nos probably from 1486; a race (as of the same habit), i.e.
a tribe; specially, a foreign (non-Jewish) one (usually, by implication,
pagan):--Gentile, heathen, nation, people.
> > I have no idea what dictionary you pulled this from. Here is
> > Mirriam-Webster:
> > >Main Entry: 3race
> > >Function: noun
> > >Etymology: Middle French, generation, from Old Italian razza
> > >Date: 1580
> > >1 : a breeding stock of animals
> > >2 a : a family, tribe, people, or nation belonging to the same stock b
> > > : a class or kind of people unified by community of interests,
> > > habits, or characteristics <the English race>
> > >3 a : an actually or potentially interbreeding group within a species;
> > > also : a taxonomic category (as a subspecies) representing such a
> > > group b : BREED c : a division of mankind possessing traits that are
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > transmissible by descent and sufficient to characterize it as a
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > distinct human type
> > Skin color is the most common trait used to characterize a distinct
> > human type. Most people, including you usually, use "race" with
> > meaning 3c. "ethnos" specifically in limited to meaning 2b, whereas
> > "genos" is associated with meaning 2a.
> You INTENTIONALLY missed the point. YOU injected the term "skin
> color" into a definition that YOU provided that does NOT include "skin
> color" as a definition of "race".
> This is the straw man argument that has YOU, and nobody else, totally
> It's not necessary for STUPID jews [though I repeat myself] to look
> like niggers for them to be a RACE by the very definition YOU
Consider the number of different peoples who are a "race" by the following
"a division of mankind possessing traits that are transmissible by descent
and sufficient to characterize it as a distinct human type".
Even though each of the three different types of jews are a "race" by
themselves, jews as a whole are also a "race" by this definition. The fact
that they all gravitate towards the Talmud and no other racial group does is
enough by itself to qualify them as a "race", because these "traits ... are
transmissible by descent" and they are "sufficient to characterize it as a
distinct human type".
Just ONE of the definitions of "ethnos" is "nation", and an entire nation
like Germany or France or Spain each qualify as separate "races", simply
because they each have "traits that are transmissible by descent" which are
"sufficient to characterize it as a distinct human type".
To a German, a Frenchman is from another planet, and Frenchmen think the
same of Germans. To both nations, these human differences are immense,
inheritable, and indelible.
Another definition of "ethnos" is "people", which is the broadest category
imaginable. And by this definition of "race", all inhabitants of a mountain
town in West Virginia who have one common ancestor have "traits that are
transmissible by descent" and which are "sufficient to characterize it as a
distinct human type".
The jews don't want anyone to know they're a race rather than just a
"religion", which is why they've spent so much time and money redefining the
word. But as much as they've tried, they can't avoid the inevitible.
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