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Sundowning: severe dementia and bringing on the night (corticosterone increases aggression in the rat)

John H. johnh at faraway.xxx
Mon Apr 7 09:49:54 EST 2003


Ken,

Peter was just giving you good advice. As for me, well I started this thread
because I wanted to learn more about sundowning. Now aren't I just one
fucking idiot?


John H.

"KP-PC" <k.p.collins at worldnet.att.net%remove%> wrote in message
news:F_fka.49528$ja4.3144317 at bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> I mean, are folks =wanting= to remain 'blind'?
>
> I mean, are folks so devoid of understanding with respect to that
> which fairly oozes from all of the top-notch sources of News?
>
> Can folks actually not 'see' what's right there to see?
>
> People - our fellow brothers and sisters in Humanity are being
> Ravaged all over the place for =one= reason - =be-cause= the way
> 'blindly'-automated TD E/I-minimization that's converged upon during
> the courses of relatively-mutually-exclusive experience has not been
> generally comprehended.
>
> Forgive me, but if anyone in Neuroscience cannot see that they have
> Obligation with respect to such, give it up, find another Profession,
> and get your do-nothingness our from between Truth and those who
> suffer and die =be-cause= you are turning your backs - 'moving away
> from' carrying our your Responsibilities.
>
> And if you still can't see it, but want to see it, then let me come
> to stand before any gathering of Neuroscientists that you wish to
> gather.
>
> Lock the doors - nobody leaves until every question is dealt with to
> everyone's satisfaction.
>
> If we fail to do this it is =us= who are culpable in the Slaughter.
>
> What is the 'problem' that all of Neuroscience 'moves away' from the
> work of an Amateur.
>
> Gather your strength. Deal with the simple Truth, stated above,
> verified over and over again over the course of these ten years,
> right here in your electronic 'presence', or close your doors and 'go
> away'.
>
> It's not acceptable that you will not do Science as Science is done -
> right in the light of day - in-person - nothing hidden - nothing
> untested - nothing unargued.
>
> For goodness' sake! People are dying because you folks won't consider
> anything that wasn't coersed upon you in grad school.
>
> You know?
>
> If it Slaughters folks, even though it's dear to you, it must be
> risen-above.
>
> Or shall you Choose to remain in Darkness - subservient to 'the
> beast', Abstract Ignorance?
>
> You are better than that.
>
> I know your work.
>
> K. P. Collins
>
>
> "KP-PC" <k.p.collins at worldnet.att.net%remove%> wrote in message
> news:GG7ka.49193$ja4.3111491 at bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> | Peter, you're saying is that, if it's difficult, then it dosen't
> need
> | to be done.
> |
> | Which is verifiably-False.
> |
> | I understand all of the 'baggage' that's heaped upon one who, in
> the
> | midst of consensual 'stagnation', says, "Still it moves."
> |
> | But, "Still it moves."
> |
> | To 'deny' that which I see with my own eyes is not something that I
> | do - which is probably why I see that, "Still it moves."
> |
> | Life isn't about 'cowering' before 'the system' so that 'the
> system'
> | will not kill you.
> |
> | Life is about Living, and, if I see that folks suffer and die, and
> I,
> | knowing why, abandon their much greater suffering to 'conform' to
> the
> | 'blindly'-automated dictates of 'the system', so that I'll not
> | suffer, then I'm already 'dead', aren't I?
> |
> | Yup.
> |
> | You advise me to 'die' - just because the matter before us is
> | difficult.
> |
> | I Choose Life, not only for myself, but for those who suffer and
> die
> | because 'the system' is Victimized by that which I stand against.
> |
> | I Choose Life even on behalf of those so Victimized.
> |
> | All the rest of what you've posted in your reply is 'curmudgeon'
> | stuff - heaping up of thinly-veiled negative sanction that, itself.
> | 'blindly' and automatically 'moves toward' acquiescence to that
> which
> | Ravages Humanity.
> |
> | Gees, Peter, we're way, way, way beyond all that.
> |
> | The matter is just difficult.
> |
> | That cannot be allowed to be the Determining thing.
> |
> | "Still it moves.'
> |
> | I'll not cower before it.
> |
> | K. P. Collins
> |
> | "Peter F" <fell_spamtrap_in at ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> | news:Jj5ka.206$2y1.2813 at nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> | | Hi Ken
> | |
> | | They way I see your problem is not that it is about what you have
> | written or
> | | even how you present and push it, but _that your urge to do so is
> | so strong
> | | that you seem to (by what you have told us) ruin your life,
> | including
> | | financially, just to for the sake of keeping on pushing against a
> | proven
> | | brick-wall.
> | |
> | | I am sure you have a good idea of what brain and
> | personal-historical
> | | dynamics produces symptoms covered by the term neurosis; and THAT
> | when a
> | | person is still more "out of (self-regulatory) control" [or, IOW,
> | when the
> | | quantity of pain in the Actention Selection System (~= brain) is
> so
> | severe
> | | that an individual's AEVASIVE survival strategies clearly starts
> to
> | crumble]
> | | then psychological symptoms roughly covered by the term psychosis
> | "start to
> | | poke, paranoically, up their by torment twisted heads"
> (pooetically
> | put
> | | :->).
> | |
> | | Clearly, your early life-circumstances put specific CURSES [or
> | specific
> | | locales of "primal pain", "traumatic memories", and "engrams" (I
> | list the
> | | last ~synonym~ reluctantly, because it is a word specifically in
> | use amongst
> | | Scientologists)] into your brain.
> | |
> | | These CURSES (originally environmentally caused by specific
> | "selective
> | | Hibernation imploring type situations" (or from simple to complex
> | ditto
> | | "stressors")) can be described as the most centrally significant
> | chronic
> | | insidious quasi-endogenous causes of "precisely neuroanatomically
> | localized
> | | places of "covert" TD E/I (up).
> | | IOW (again making use of your vocabulary and visualizing
> | vantage-point), by
> | | pain-"gating" mechanisms imperfectly "covered TD E/I up".
> | | :-)
> | |
> | | So find a way to make money, eat well (boost your intake of good
> | nutrients),
> | | find a diverting hobby.
> | |
> | | And if you then can afford to have a "free will" to do Primal
> | Therapy
> | | (www.primaltherapy.com), I would then be able to sincerely say to
> | you: "You
> | | made a good choice!".
> | |
> | | After you have sorted things out in such ways, you would be much
> | more free
> | | to forage into the field of neuropsychophysiological
> philanthropy,
> | and to do
> | | so much more effectively -- if it WOULD still tickle your fancy.
> | |
> | | And, IMO, there is a fair chance that it would. :-)
> | |
> | | Best wishes,
> | | P
> | |
> | |
> |
> |
>
>





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