BilZ0r BilZ0r at TAKETHISOUThotmail.com
Thu Jul 24 18:27:44 EST 2003

I think the only thing this newsgroup can help you with is getting your 
medication right.

You can tell your breathing because air goes in your mouth, and comes out 
again. Unless you're 4th ventricle is pulsating, I can't see how you can 

"Mike Dubbeld" <miike at erols.com> wrote in news:bfo004$f84$1

> "Kalman Rubinson" <kr4 at nyu.edu> wrote in message
> news:rjuthv0thkeiitkpre2nnns80qob4hlpf8 at 4ax.com...
>> And how do you know any of this is really happening?
> I don't lugnuts anymore than I know that I am breathing. How do you 
> you sent this post? Ever answer a 5 year old answering their why
> questions only to realize they were stuck in the 'why mode'/there could
> be no answer because whatever answer you did provide would be returned
> with why - are you 5 or 6 years old. :)
> In other words there is no answering your question. I am looking for
> TESTING not fancying your cute whys.
> Mike Dubbeld
>> Kal
>> On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 16:50:47 -0400, "Mike Dubbeld" <miike at erols.com>
>> wrote:
>> >Yes the choroid plexus. Its like if you put a glass half full of
> water
>> >upside down on a smooth flat surface you can pick it up without the
>> >water coming out. The tiniest little pressure anywhere moves CSF.
>> >Pulsatile pressure comes to mind. I get this started by tuning into
> the
>> >waves in my brain and with skillful timing somehow building power in
>> >those waves along with serious frowning by squeezing my eyeballs real
>> >hard. It is difficult to get started but once I do get it moving/find
>> >the pattern of movement it is much easier and is like a swing where
>> >small pushes on the person on the swing result in larger and larger
>> >movement - up to a point. When it is in full swing, I actually wait
> for
>> >it to hit bottom of my spine - it actually sends up a throb of some
> sort
>> >and at that point I start pulling it back upward having a noticible
>> >change in consciousness between going down and up. Like something set
> in
>> >motion doesn't suddenly come to a stop, it seems to go past the brain
>> >and return downward again at a certain point - again with a noticible
>> >change in consciousness. This whole process goes on for 30-60
> minutes.
>> >One cycle taking 3-5 minutes depending on how skillful I am. Starting
>> >out it takes longer because I am clumsier.
>> >
>> >I know how weird all this sounds but from my point of view, all that
>> >remains is proving it. I don't know how this could be done - and by
>> >doing it if there is any known medical value. I can tell you that the
>> >whole activity is extremely pleasant for me and when I stop doing it
> my
>> >brain is very clear like I just woke up again. I was struck by the
> fact
>> >that the optic nerves cross at the optic chaisma in the vicinity of
> the
>> >pituitary gland. Somehow I am using my eye sockets - squishing them -
> to
>> >get a pumping action going on CSF. The beating action of cilia like a
>> >field of wheat in the wind in the chorid plexus? and other places is
>> >what normally moves CSF I believe - its been awhile since I looked at
>> >this. Is it possible the beating of cilia is the frequency of
> beta/alpha
>> >waves in the brain? The que I get for putting pressure on my eyeballs
> is
>> >from theses waves. Skillful timing of the waves makes this work. I
> live
>> >by NIH in Washington DC.
>> >But I didn't really see anything on the web about them for me to show
> I
>> >can do this. :)
>> >
>> >Mike Dubbeld
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >

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