Charlie's Animal Research Lab seeks expert help.

__mic__h_ael ceo at _dog_____tv.com_
Sat Jul 26 17:58:50 EST 2003

Showends good Charlie.

If you need anyone to broadcast your compelling expose, let me know.

Charlie Wilkes wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 14:48:04 GMT, "The Puppy Wizard"
> <ThePuppyWizard at> wrote:
>>Well, lying frosty dahl IS a SCIENTIST.  She REPORTED
>>the DDR CANNOT POSSIBLY BE HEARD at a distance
>>of MOORE than a few inches from the unit, and it CERTAINLY cannot be heard
>>by roosters... it's all in her documentation.
> If Amy Dahl is a scientist then I'm the Pope of Rome.
> I'm not interested in what Amy thinks based on a general understanding
> of how the thing works.  That is not science.
> I'm interested in controlled tests to document and measure the ability
> of the DDR to influence animal behavior in a kennel or animal housing
> facility.  With a good outcome study under my belt, then I can
> entertain hypotheses about what is going on.
> First I will put the box in a cage with captive animals and leave it
> turned off, observing out of sight with a pinhole video camera
> recording images to support my observations.
> Then I will turn the thing on and begin observe in the same way.
> Through my observations, I will develop metrics for stress and anxiety
> -- e.g., audible sounds such as barking and whining, certain
> repetitive licking or chewing behavior, etc. -- metrics that I will
> confirm with vets and/or others who have extensive experience with
> animals in captivity.  I will measure these metrics over a period of
> time, with and without the machine in operation.
> I will publish my results on the Internet for all to see and for
> anyone to replicate if desired.  If anyone with a real understanding
> of testing procedures points out a flaw in my approach, I will modify
> my approach accordingly and do the whole thing over if necessary.
> That's how it's gonna be.
> Charlie




"when i got harriet she was emaciated, so i asked my vet for advice on
slowly adding weight to her.  six months later i took harriet in for her
spring check-up and my vet was surprised that at how thin she still was."
                    --shelly couv.rette

"<raises hand> i've been told by three different vets that
harriet (53lbs) is *way* too skinny.  we're still
vet-shopping, BTW."

             --shelly couv.rette

"if you really can't resist
it when your dog pulls the "i'm starving!" routine <G>, you can give
him some frozen green beans or a small amount of plain pureed pumpkin.
  i would also suggest putting the food out of his sight.  i keep my
food--still inside the bags, which are tightly rolled down--inside
trash cans in the closed laundry room.  that keeps it fresh and keeps
it out of my dogs' sight."

             --shelly couv.rette

"heh.  i get the opposite response.  people think that poor little
harriet is positively starved to death.  i've actually had people stop
me in the pet supply shop and tell me that i need to fatten her up!"

             --shelly couv.rette

"i think that may be part of the problem.  who wants to go to a
vet who tells you you're hurting your .widdle precious?  i
think the other part is that some vets really don't *realize*
that what they consider proper weight is fat.  after having
been told by a couple of vets that my dogs are too thin, i've
got a dim view of vets on that topic."

             --shelly couv.rette

"my mom is kinda that way, but not *as* bad.  she thinks that harriet is
awfully skinny, so feeding her table snax is okay.  she tells me that
just a bite won't hurt."

             --shelly couv.rette


shelly's fat face

There are a lot of big fat women on these groups who starve their dogs 
out of vanity, but shelly is a special case.

shelly is moor.e than a little bit beyond the pale

Shelly has OCD, and maybe she's just a little obsessive about measuring 
out extra tiny and discrete portions with a tiny measuring cup, or 
counting out pieces of green bean or pumpkin that she gives her dogs 
when they give her the "I'm Starving" routine. When grandma tried to 
give Hattie a snack, shelly probably went apeshit, because it was in 
violation of her Obsessive need to oversee every tiny calorie that goes 
into her widdle precious' mouth.

shelly's a special case, a special kind of dog abuser.

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