charlie_wilkes at easynews.com
Wed Nov 5 14:09:12 EST 2003
Hello Neuroscientists. I would like any comments on my lay analogy
below about cannabis being like hot water through a coffee basket,
with the coffee grounds representing the brain's natural chemicals
that contribute to a high.
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 17:59:37 GMT, "Bob Davidson" <phatbhat at shaw.ca>
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>> >> > > people make tea out of pot,, but i was told that if you bring the
>> >> too
>> >> > > high,or boil it,, it destroys the thc, , a better way is to make it
>> >> a
>> >> > > butter,, as they have similar chemical compounds ,in fat form,,
>> >> >
>> >> > No, tea won't work. THC is not soluble in water, so making tea is
>> >> > pointless as the pot will simply be wasted. I did read that in
>> >> > theory at least it might be possible to use an espresso machine, as
>> >> > the high-temp steam should be sufficient to extract the oils.
>> >> >
>> >> > Butter is a good method, as THC is soluble in fat. Alcohol is
>> >> > another way to extract THC and the other essential oils.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> It's not totally right, perso i didn't try but you can drink tea with
>> >> it's used. You can put green butter in your tea but....try
>> >> milk+pot+chocolate......
>> >hey there big!!
>> > a great method is by Biz an Bill chocolate cannabis,mixing, chocolate is
>> >similar to marijuana in how it acts on our brains,, they use real
>> >for their recipee,,
>> >recently Biz, who has Ms,, thried to kill herself in desparation,, in
>> >only marijuana would help her, and her government was charging her with
>> >supplying by selling other SICk little old ladies in england chocolate
>> >marijuana,,, the government bent under pressure and dropped all
>> >how nice of them,, she is doing better ,but made a personal stand,, now
>> >that is benefitting many other people.
>> This sounds rather politicized Bob, and I don't think your posts will
>> support the view that marijuana is a worthwhile pain medication used
>> responsibly by those who need it.
>welll your wrong,, recent information specifically from gw pharmaceuticals
>in the uk have reported marijuana to be very beneficial for treating MS this
>is factual r3esearch evidnce, from a double blind controlled study.
> After all, you're smoking the
>> entire output of two thousand-watt sodium lamps and now you're looking
>> for a stronger variety of weed.
>ya so whats yer poiint,, i see none,, i am smokeing more than the entire
>output of 2 lamps,, i supplement by purchasing extra,,,
> for medical uses,, the strongest is the best medication here is why,, if i
>smoke 1 ounce a day of weak weed,,then it follows i would smoke less of
>stronger weed to achieve the same effect, then my intake would be alot less.
> Are your doctors comfortable with the
>> fact that you smoke an ounce of pot every day???
> charlie,, my doctor is very happy,, as i have been able to cut my morphine
>intake in half,, which is a deadly drug and is known to kill.
Yes, cutting morphine use with pot seems valid and useful -- up to a
Bu what about all that smoke??? I just smoked one good clump of bud
to get my unemployed ass off to a lazy start for the day. I suppose
I'll smoke another gram before I go to bed. But right now, I feel as
though, at the very least, I ought to get a bit of exercise and fresh
air before I smoke more pot. It's not toxic in the way tobacco smoke
is, but it's heavy, oily smoke.
Also, I try to hold off a bit because I'm smoking for the hell of it,
to keep my shitty attitude intact, not because I need it for pain.
Therefore I like to hold off between smokes long enough to I get some
sort of a buzz -- and I'm after the chronic low buzz, not the
disorientating buzz that comes from smoking heavily after a long
period of abstinence. So, it's a balancing act.
My philosophy is this -- smoking pot is like pouring hot water through
a filter basket full of coffee. Every morning, when you wake up, you
get a fresh ration of coffee in the filter basket -- i.e., the
dopamine and what have you that your brain produces on its own. The
more hot water you pour through that filter basket, the weaker the
coffee gets. By night-time, you're drinking frog piss.
So, I strongly suspect you might improve your quality of life, and
find pot more beneficial, if you could abstain for a few days, and
then get on a controlled dosage program that spaces relief intervals
between spans of relative discomfort. It's easy for me to say that,
right? But, talk to the docs and ask them if I'm not on the right
track vis-a-vis dose/benefit with cannabis.
> also my 4 pain clinic specialists , have told me to continue with ym
>regime,, as well the entire Ms clinic, neurology team has advised me
>smokeing marijuana benefits MS,, thats enough medical specialists agreeing
>with me on my uses of marijauna.
>nice try though,, i got more fact than you need to legitimize marijuana as a
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