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Wed Apr 21 11:12:09 EST 2004
"John H." <johnh at faraway.> wrote in message
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> "Eray Ozkural exa" <erayo at bilkent.edu.tr> wrote in message
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> > Hi Ken,
> > I think you remember that you sent
> > your book AoK to me as well, and I
> > have read most of it, save for the last
> > appendix or so.
> > Comments below...
> > "ken" <kpaulc@[remove]earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> > > "John H." <johnh at faraway.> wrote in message
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> > > > "David B. Held" <dheld at codelogicconsulting.com> wrote in message
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> > > > > "ken" <kpaulc@[remove]earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> > > > > > [...]
> > > > > > The problem is that I worked
> > > > > > =Hard=, produced AoK's
> > > > > > synthesis of Neuroscience
> > > > > > experiment, and it was so far
> > > > > > ahead of the field, that no one
> > > > > > would even Review it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is that the only reason nobody
> > > > > would review it?
> > > >
> > Secondly, you do not seem to acknow-
> > ledge the recent neuroscience research.
> > Some of the recent papers might actually
> > support your "computational" thesis, for
> > instance about the role amygdala and
> > hippocampus...
> Some months ago on bionet.neuroscience
> I pointed out to Ken a recent review on the
> hippocampus that I felt gave strong support
> to his ideas(ie, hippo as a "super configura-
> tion" system). Hormones and the Hippo-
> campus was the title I think but can't find
> it right now. I trust Ken took note of it be-
> cause the review contains a wealth of val-
> uable information and references in support
> of his position. Anyway, checked pubmed:
> here it is and it can be downloaded for free
> at the journal site:
> J Endocrinol. 2001 May;169(2):205-31.
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I've saved your post special, and will try
to figure out what I can do with respect
I've not tried to contact other Reseachers
for 'years' - mainly because I 'lost hope',
with respect to such, after having done
so much of that, to no avail.
Basically, since then, my 'strategy' has
just been to 'prod' others, in the hope
that, through them, 'ndt's understanding
would, eventually, come forward.
Basically, I didn't reply in b.n because
I'd Proven NDT's position re Hippo-
campus & amygdala, as it's discussed
in AoK, Ap5, before AoK was written.
It's a case in-point, as above, of AoK's
being so far ahead of the field that folks
couldn't understand it.
The intervening 'years' have been Brutal,
and, in light of that, I'm "proud" of the
fact that I was able to still do the "prod-
ding" 'strategy', above.
It's been a 'living-Death' - and with what
was left of 'me', I've continued to do what
I could do.
So I never know what to do with re-
spect to Articles like this. My experience
has been that there is nothing that I can
do. [It's not "learned helplessness". Other
than my bill payments, I've no reason to
believe that my Mail ever reaches anyone.
So why waste energy trying.]
I don't know what folks expect of me, be-
yond my willingness to meet with them, in-
person, to give them whatever they want to
receive [in a way that cannot maintain 'sec-
Because of all that's transpired, in-person
is the only way that's Acceptable to me.
I long ago gave my Word that, after that,
I'll just 'go away'. Once my word is given,
that's what happens.
My only Goal has always been =just= the
Anything else is, as far as I'm concerned,
Unethical -- because of what's in NDT's
Understanding this can, in fact, be used
as a measure of the degree to which NDT's
understanding is, in fact, Grasped.
Anyway, Thank You for reposting this
k. p. collins
> Hormones and the hippocampus.
> Lathe R.
> Centre for Genome Research and Centre for Neuroscience, University of
> Edinburgh, West Mains Road, Edinburgh EH9 3JQ, UK.
> Hippocampal lesions produce memory deficits, but the exact function of the
> hippocampus remains obscure. Evidence is presented that its role in memory
> may be ancillary to physiological regulation. Molecular studies
> that the hippocampus is a primary target for ligands that reflect body
> physiology, including ion balance and blood pressure, immunity, pain,
> reproductive status, satiety and stress. Hippocampal receptors are
> functional, probably accessible to their ligands, and mediate
> and cognitive changes. This argues that an early role of the hippocampus
> have been in sensing soluble molecules (termed here 'enteroception') in
> blood and cerebrospinal fluid, perhaps reflecting a common evolutionary
> origin with the olfactory system ('exteroception'). Functionally,
> hippocampal enteroception may reflect feedback control; evidence is
> that the hippocampus modulates body physiology, including the activity of
> the hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal axis, blood pressure, immunity, and
> reproductive function. It is suggested that the hippocampus operates, in
> parallel with the amygdala, to modulate body physiology in response to
> cognitive stimuli. Hippocampal outputs are predominantly inhibitory on
> downstream neuroendocrine activity; increased synaptic efficacy in the
> hippocampus (e.g. long-term potentiation) could facilitate throughput
> inhibition. This may have implications for the role of the hippocampus and
> long-term potentiation in memory.
> Publication Types:
> Review, Academic
> PMID: 11312139 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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